New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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A lot of the details in there we already know, but I hadn't followed byd enough to know this part.

basically, BYD has plants everywhere in China. Not just in Shanghai and Shenzhen or their surrounding areas or even 2nd tier cities. A lot of these places are 3rd or 4th tier cities in China.

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If you just look at this, they are diversifying their production all over China. This is quite an interesting strategy. It's one that has served them well during the most recent lockdowns as a lot of its competitors could not operate since they are based around Shanghai.

There is huge cost of living and salary gap between Shanghai and Shenzhen with 2nd tier cities. There is even bigger gap with 3rd and 4th tier cities where some of BYD's factories are located. Bringing their high tech plants to these cities less associated with auto/EV industry probably brought BYD a lot of favors with local government in terms of taxes/land and order book. This is not a strategy that a company like Tesla would be able to adopt. Or even other major foreign automakers and their JVs can do, since they are probably uncomfortable operating outside of the areas best known to foreigners. It's also unlikely smaller startups like NIO or XPeng can open up many different factories. So, this is like something only large private automaker with firm understanding of regional politics and supply chain management inside China can employ. This is also not an easy strategy to execute since many of these 3rd/4th tiers cities don't have the same work culture as the ultra productive manufacturing hubs. But if you are able to get similar level of productive while paying much lower wages, then you win big time.

There has always been this question of how BYD has such a cost advantage over its competitors. Having a great management and vertical integration are definitely keys, but I think being able to carry out manufacturing outside of the traditional auto hubs also provides them a key advantage.

Transport costs are also an issue as cars are pretty bulky.

So it's an advantage having local production plants that can cover major cities closeby, and also up to a day's drive in a car transporter for other destinations. Call it a radius of 400-500km maximum
 
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BYD goes to the Americas: 1000 D1 electric taxis for Mexico, and its flagship Han EV will be sold in 45 major cities in Brazil.

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Solid batteries are coming.

NIO's semi-solid-state battery supplier WeLion signs deal for 30,000 tons of cathode material​

From 2022-2025, WeLion will purchase no less than 30,000 tons of solid-state lithium battery cathode material products from Ronbay, according to the announcement.

The signing of the agreement marks the advanced level of energy density, cycling performance and safety performance of solid-state batteries made from Ronbay's high nickel/ultra-high nickel ternary cathode materials in the industry, the announcement said.

These batteries are expected to be the first to enter the batch supply stage and achieve large-scale commercial application in automotive solid-state batteries, creating new growth points for the company's future business development, Ronbay said.
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Looks like BYD might be the most popular auto brand in China. Really great work here. NIO and XPeng also have pretty good reputations. If I had to guess, these 3 would be the most successful ones long term.

Due to the lockdown in Shanghai, BYD is so far away of everyone else in NEV registration in most of April

With ICE included, BYD is still #1
 

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Looks like BYD might be the most popular auto brand in China. Really great work here. NIO and XPeng also have pretty good reputations. If I had to guess, these 3 would be the most successful ones long term.

Due to the lockdown in Shanghai, BYD is so far away of everyone else in NEV registration in most of April

With ICE included, BYD is still #1
Man, BYD are absolutely crushing it! Major props to them for being the only automaker to realize there are other places in China besides Shanghai. The others are taking a richly deserved beating for not learning that lesson.
 

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Looks like BYD might be the most popular auto brand in China. Really great work here. NIO and XPeng also have pretty good reputations. If I had to guess, these 3 would be the most successful ones long term.

Due to the lockdown in Shanghai, BYD is so far away of everyone else in NEV registration in most of April

With ICE included, BYD is still #1

Man, BYD are absolutely crushing it! Major props to them for being the only automaker to realize there are other places in China besides Shanghai. The others are taking a richly deserved beating for not learning that lesson.

BYD is in good shape.

BYD First-Quarter Income Jumps on Demand for Electric Vehicles​

  • EV cars, battery maker sees first quarter net income jump 241%
  • Record EV sales helps offset more expensive raw material costs
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New battery packing technology: according to Electric Viking, Leapmotor's CTC technology has some similarities with Tesla's 4680 structural pack.
Leapmotor's upcoming flagship sedan, the C01, will use the CTC technology, making it the first vehicle in the world to not use a separate battery pack, it said. The company has also announced that it will share the technology for free and open access.
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BYD is in good shape.
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BYD is on the same level as Huawei and CATL as among the greatest Chinese hard tech companies (maybe you can throw DJI, JinkoSolar and Goldwind in there). And arguably, it has brighter road ahead than anyone. The company is so unbelievably well run and flexible. No one is as well set up to capture the green revolution as BYD. It's almost as if the past 15 years were all like a buildup For BYD to finally explode in the auto industry today.
 
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