New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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HeiTangSeng

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SteelBird said:
3. ICE running too loud when battery low: Mine is DM-i version so it has an ICE. When battery runs low (18% for low speed and 30% for high speed), ICE kicks in to drive the wheels and charge the battery at the same time. The sound of the ICE is very loudly like it is running at very high speed. Perhaps they should make the car running pure electric to a certain battery level, then running pure gasoline and no need to charge battery unless battery level is extremely low.
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My D9 DMi doesn't go below 25% battery by default, the engine will kick in when it reaches 25% whether I'm in the 智能保电 (Auto) or 强制保电 (SAVE) modes. Unless I'm going over 120 km/h, the engine usually won't kick in as long as the battery is above 25% in 智能保电 mode.

The easy way to ensure you run the engine once in a while (like one tank per month) is to set 强制保电 (SAVE mode) at 70% battery once in a while. So the engine will run to keep it charged at 70%.

The engine will also run if it detects high gas vapor pressure in the gas tank per a 2024 OTA update.

SteelBird said:
4. Need to run the ICE once a while: I was advised to run the ICE at least once per week. So, the way I do it is after battery dry out, I'd run the ICE for one day then charge battery. That's annoyed! Perhaps they should design to make ICE runs automatically after a certain of period, so that users don't have to care about it.
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Lol. Just do it! It has an engine so like an ICE vehicle, you need to run it periodically till the important first scheduled service so that oils and filters get changed. I got my D9 to 2500 km in HEV(engine) in the first six months.

Maybe you should consider trading it in for the EV version in your case. DMi is perfect for our use case of 500 km a week highway + 200 km city.

BTW, the latest OTA for D9 finally implements the Sentry mode that Denza had been promising for two years.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888930411562377562

BYD will be doing the biggest blow in China's auto industry against legacy automakers.

Every model above 100k RMB will come standard with L2+ ADAS

Even for models below 100k like Seagull, Qin+/Seal 05 DM-i, some variants will have L2+ ADAS.

it believes L2+ ADAS will be as synonymous as seat belt and safety bags in 2 to 3 years
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This means all 2025 NEVs sold in China must have ADAS to survive! Win for all consumers!

And it also means my 2024 non-ADAS Denza D9 has just lost 100k in resale value, which is roughly the total savings on gas expenses in the three years I plan to own it. Not bad for consumer electronics.
 
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SteelBird said:
To be exactly, mine is Denza. The market for Chinese cars in Cambodia is a mess because there's actually no official distributor of any Chinese brand here. My Denza D9 is running fine as it is expected to be. However, there are some points that I don't really like it. I'll try to list a few of them.

1. The third row is a big disappointment: After using this 7-seat MPV, I found that the 3rd row is for spare. I'd rarely need it but there's no way to fold it off for larger space at the rear. I like the way they deal it with the 3rd row of BYD Xia.
2. Front doors are too low. In general, cars have door above a side horizontal frame (whatever you call it), but the side frame of D9 is hidden behind doors that its doors go all the way to the lowest part of the vehicle. What's wrong with that? If you park the D9 next to the sidewalk and it's too high, you probably can't open the door.
3. ICE running too loud when battery low: Mine is DM-i version so it has an ICE. When battery runs low (18% for low speed and 30% for high speed), ICE kicks in to drive the wheels and charge the battery at the same time. The sound of the ICE is very loudly like it is running at very high speed. Perhaps they should make the car running pure electric to a certain battery level, then running pure gasoline and no need to charge battery unless battery level is extremely low.
4. Need to run the ICE once a while: I was advised to run the ICE at least once per week. So, the way I do it is after battery dry out, I'd run the ICE for one day then charge battery. That's annoyed! Perhaps they should design to make ICE runs automatically after a certain of period, so that users don't have to care about it.
5. Some small functions don't work properly: for example, the traffic signs are identified wrongly in some certain scenarios. Memory seat doesn't move to its memorized position correctly.
6. There's no way to lock children from messing with buttons in the rear seats. I have to restore everything back to default after my children leave the car.
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Oh wow.... That seems like alot of things they need to sort out for customer satisfaction to improve.
 
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