New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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BYD Sea Lion 07 getting launched around Europe


We should see more export sales this month as they are able to deliver a few more shipment abroad.

BYD's JV with Weichai should start production next month


That will significantly increase BYD market share in commercial vehicles market.
BYD still doesn't want to sell in Europe in bigger volume. With these prices it just won't sell well. Maybe they're waiting for a factory in Hungary to open?
 

iewgnem

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BYD still doesn't want to sell in Europe in bigger volume. With these prices it just won't sell well. Maybe they're waiting for a factory in Hungary to open?
Or maybe BYD isn't in a hurry to take over a market where political and racial forces play a big role in sales, and the point of European expansion is to keep them pinned at home so BYD can takeover everywhere else.

I mean just think how much free marketing on Chinese automotive superiority we've seen because of American and European fears.
 

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BYD still doesn't want to sell in Europe in bigger volume.
Because they want to milk Europe for higher margins. Even with tariffs, they can afford to do so. The competition in China is much fiercer, so margins there are lower. This isn't just a BYD thing, it's across all Chinese brands. Which is why they have made very limited headway in Europe and they seem to be fine with that for now.

The problem here is really with the established European brands. They don't give much competition, which allows these Chinese companies to price their cars at absurd premiums compared to their home market. Corporations are not about welfare. They will sell at whatever price they feel they can get away with.
 

PeoplesPoster

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FangchengBao Bao-8 will really threaten Tank-700 and that entire lineup


BYD will soon be launching upgrade T5DM with much larger battery pack


10 million NEVs produced in China this year

A ICE vehicles like the Tank's will still have huge advantages for true off road applications, EV and hybrids need to overcome the weight issue. The PHEV Tanks are gonna suffer.
 

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Because they want to milk Europe for higher margins. Even with tariffs, they can afford to do so. The competition in China is much fiercer, so margins there are lower. This isn't just a BYD thing, it's across all Chinese brands. Which is why they have made very limited headway in Europe and they seem to be fine with that for now.

BYD is the most profitable company NEV company in the world and all of top Chinese NEV makers are profitable. European sales are low and yet they have the best operating margins in the world.

There is no harm in making money off Europe but it won't make a substantial difference unless they are selling cars in 6 digits per year. Chinese auto companies do not need Europe to be profitable.
 

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A ICE vehicles like the Tank's will still have huge advantages for true off road applications, EV and hybrids need to overcome the weight issue. The PHEV Tanks are gonna suffer.
what the heck are you talking about? What weight issue? Bao-8 has much higher power than ICE tank versions.


Anyhow, Bao-8 deliveries have started already. Maybe they can deliver 1000 this month.
 

tphuang

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Because they want to milk Europe for higher margins. Even with tariffs, they can afford to do so. The competition in China is much fiercer, so margins there are lower. This isn't just a BYD thing, it's across all Chinese brands. Which is why they have made very limited headway in Europe and they seem to be fine with that for now.

The problem here is really with the established European brands. They don't give much competition, which allows these Chinese companies to price their cars at absurd premiums compared to their home market. Corporations are not about welfare. They will sell at whatever price they feel they can get away with.
BYD's margin is higher in China than rest of the world. You can see this on their earnings report
 

henrik

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what the heck are you talking about? What weight issue? Bao-8 has much higher power than ICE tank versions.


Anyhow, Bao-8 deliveries have started already. Maybe they can deliver 1000 this month.

People buy the Tank for its superior machinery. Gasoline engines are innovative technologies which still have their applications, especially when there are contingencies. Companies like Geely and Chery are pushing China's gasoline engine technologies to the world's leading position.
 

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