Movies in General

Lethe

Captain
In the context of the mixed reception for Born to Fly, I am recollecting films and series with first-rate depictions of combat aircraft and/or aerial combat. Obviously there is Top Gun (1986) and its recent sequel. Other notable works that I have encountered:

Sky Fighters (Les Chevaliers du Ciel (2005)

Battle Fairy Yukikaze (Sentō Yōsei Yukikaze, 2002)

The Sky Crawlers (Sukai Kurora, 2008)

.... and of course the air intercept scene in Patlabor 2 (Kidō Keisatsu Patoreibā 2, 1993)

What else is out there?
 

Aniah

Senior Member
Registered Member
Really wanted to like Born to Fly but the CGI is so cheap and the shots weren't really top-notch. Honestly, why do they spend so much money on actors when what's important is the action and style? A thing or two could be learned from Judge Dread and this indie war film.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Has anybody seen the TV show Lioness? It's an action series with big stars like Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, and Morgan Freeman. It's a Paramount+ show that's on Showtime now too. It's about I guess a special CIA operations team split between action and politics. Nicole Kidman is behind the political end and Zoe Saldana is the head of the action part. I have a feeling the show is more about the female characters than the plot. In this season the plot involves China but seems to be missing literally. Apparently the CIA is saying China is using Mexican drug cartels to commit crimes in the US to, not undermine the US directly, but in order to force the US to openly use the military in Mexico so that it'll make the US look like a hypocrite so China can invade Taiwan giving no excuse for the US to intervene. Since when does looking like hypocrite stop the US from doing anything? The story doesn't show any proof that's what is happening. They're just guessing because why would Mexico kidnap a US Senator and kill her family inside the US...? Because it had to be China because of Taiwan of course. There's no Chinese characters from what I've seen on IMDB that show up in this season. I think it's been through half the episodes so far for this season. I have a feeling there will be nothing about China that will play a part of this season except they're guessing it was them. What's funny is the show has a restaurant that what looks like operated by the CIA where everyone the in US government goes not to just have dinner but it's where they plot and lobby politicians and discuss plans and conspire with each other. The people who work at this restaurant are CIA newbies training learning CIA craft while there. It's suppose to show how sophisticated US clandestine operations are and yet they can only guess China was behind Mexican drug cartels committing crimes in the US?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Has anybody seen the TV show Lioness? It's an action series with big stars like Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, and Morgan Freeman. It's a Paramount+ show that's on Showtime now too. It's about I guess a special CIA operations team split between action and politics. Nicole Kidman is behind the political end and Zoe Saldana is the head of the action part. I have a feeling the show is more about the female characters than the plot. In this season the plot involves China but seems to be missing literally. Apparently the CIA is saying China is using Mexican drug cartels to commit crimes in the US to, not undermine the US directly, but in order to force the US to openly use the military in Mexico so that it'll make the US look like a hypocrite so China can invade Taiwan giving no excuse for the US to intervene. Since when does looking like hypocrite stop the US from doing anything? The story doesn't show any proof that's what is happening. They're just guessing because why would Mexico kidnap a US Senator and kill her family inside the US...? Because it had to be China because of Taiwan of course. There's no Chinese characters from what I've seen on IMDB that show up in this season. I think it's been through half the episodes so far for this season. I have a feeling there will be nothing about China that will play a part of this season except they're guessing it was them. What's funny is the show has a restaurant that what looks like operated by the CIA where everyone the in US government goes not to just have dinner but it's where they plot and lobby politicians and discuss plans and conspire with each other. The people who work at this restaurant are CIA newbies training learning CIA craft while there. It's suppose to show how sophisticated US clandestine operations are and yet they can only guess China was behind Mexican drug cartels committing crimes in the US?

Here's the clip of the scene saying China is behind it. After this no scenes of any Chinese plotting and involvement setting them up as the bad guys in the show. The show seems to center on making women in charge in important positions and making them look like badasses at what they do. Not with those conclusions.
 
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