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Lethe

Lethe

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In the context of the mixed reception for Born to Fly, I am recollecting films and series with first-rate depictions of combat aircraft and/or aerial combat. Obviously there is Top Gun (1986) and its recent sequel. Other notable works that I have encountered:

Sky Fighters (Les Chevaliers du Ciel (2005)

Battle Fairy Yukikaze (Sentō Yōsei Yukikaze, 2002)

The Sky Crawlers (Sukai Kurora, 2008)

.... and of course the air intercept scene in Patlabor 2 (Kidō Keisatsu Patoreibā 2, 1993)

What else is out there?
 
Aniah

Aniah

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Really wanted to like Born to Fly but the CGI is so cheap and the shots weren't really top-notch. Honestly, why do they spend so much money on actors when what's important is the action and style? A thing or two could be learned from Judge Dread and this indie war film.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Has anybody seen the TV show Lioness? It's an action series with big stars like Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, and Morgan Freeman. It's a Paramount+ show that's on Showtime now too. It's about I guess a special CIA operations team split between action and politics. Nicole Kidman is behind the political end and Zoe Saldana is the head of the action part. I have a feeling the show is more about the female characters than the plot. In this season the plot involves China but seems to be missing literally. Apparently the CIA is saying China is using Mexican drug cartels to commit crimes in the US to, not undermine the US directly, but in order to force the US to openly use the military in Mexico so that it'll make the US look like a hypocrite so China can invade Taiwan giving no excuse for the US to intervene. Since when does looking like hypocrite stop the US from doing anything? The story doesn't show any proof that's what is happening. They're just guessing because why would Mexico kidnap a US Senator and kill her family inside the US...? Because it had to be China because of Taiwan of course. There's no Chinese characters from what I've seen on IMDB that show up in this season. I think it's been through half the episodes so far for this season. I have a feeling there will be nothing about China that will play a part of this season except they're guessing it was them. What's funny is the show has a restaurant that what looks like operated by the CIA where everyone the in US government goes not to just have dinner but it's where they plot and lobby politicians and discuss plans and conspire with each other. The people who work at this restaurant are CIA newbies training learning CIA craft while there. It's suppose to show how sophisticated US clandestine operations are and yet they can only guess China was behind Mexican drug cartels committing crimes in the US?
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
AssassinsMace said:
Has anybody seen the TV show Lioness? It's an action series with big stars like Nicole Kidman, Zoe Saldana, and Morgan Freeman. It's a Paramount+ show that's on Showtime now too. It's about I guess a special CIA operations team split between action and politics. Nicole Kidman is behind the political end and Zoe Saldana is the head of the action part. I have a feeling the show is more about the female characters than the plot. In this season the plot involves China but seems to be missing literally. Apparently the CIA is saying China is using Mexican drug cartels to commit crimes in the US to, not undermine the US directly, but in order to force the US to openly use the military in Mexico so that it'll make the US look like a hypocrite so China can invade Taiwan giving no excuse for the US to intervene. Since when does looking like hypocrite stop the US from doing anything? The story doesn't show any proof that's what is happening. They're just guessing because why would Mexico kidnap a US Senator and kill her family inside the US...? Because it had to be China because of Taiwan of course. There's no Chinese characters from what I've seen on IMDB that show up in this season. I think it's been through half the episodes so far for this season. I have a feeling there will be nothing about China that will play a part of this season except they're guessing it was them. What's funny is the show has a restaurant that what looks like operated by the CIA where everyone the in US government goes not to just have dinner but it's where they plot and lobby politicians and discuss plans and conspire with each other. The people who work at this restaurant are CIA newbies training learning CIA craft while there. It's suppose to show how sophisticated US clandestine operations are and yet they can only guess China was behind Mexican drug cartels committing crimes in the US?
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Here's the clip of the scene saying China is behind it. After this no scenes of any Chinese plotting and involvement setting them up as the bad guys in the show. The show seems to center on making women in charge in important positions and making them look like badasses at what they do. Not with those conclusions.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
AssassinsMace said:

Here's the clip of the scene saying China is behind it. After this no scenes of any Chinese plotting and involvement setting them up as the bad guys in the show. The show seems to center on making women in charge in important positions and making them look like badasses at what they do. Not with those conclusions.
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Well the season finale just aired. I’ll have to say this show was just about making women look bad-ass at what they do. The plot went all over the place. First it was about Mexican drug cartels kidnapping and killing the family of a US senator in the US blaming it on China where all they did in the end was turn the Mexican drug lord into a CIA asset that somehow ended up as a US military strike in Iran because China sent two of their nuclear scientists there and the only connection was China had to do with both. Was it some huge buildup to an epic climax in Iran. No, it was simply the US had to show up to Iran and China that they had open borders too just as the US to make a statement. What? Do they think China and Iran have walls all along their borders thinking they’re safe to show them they’re not. I have a feeling all this talk in US politics on open borders the producers of this show literally think this. That restaurant I mentioned before run by the CIA, I have the feeling they were inspired by trying to claim a real life version of the Continental Hotel in John Wick. Here I think they were trying to copy Buffy the Vampire Slayer which started the trend of showing regular people having a secret life doing something else. Buffy was a high school girl going through high school angst but she was also a vampire hunter. Alias was about a college girl was also a CIA spy. This show was about a mother with a husband and kids who was also a bad-ass CIA special ops team leader whose job took her away from her family. At least the previous two had a connective plot.
 
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