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stoa1984

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The Men's Club (1986)
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is a 'sleep deprivation warfare' genre Hollywood movie with a 'sleep brainwashing', 'debauchery' and 'marriage with whore' genre subplots drama film directed by Peter Medak, based on the novel of the same name by Leonard Michaels. It stars Roy Scheider, Harvey Keitel, Frank Langella, Treat Williams, David Dukes, Richard Jordan, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Claudia Cron and Penny Baker.


Plot

A band of friends go on a drunken, all-night spree, spending a night in a high-class San Francisco brothel.

A group of men in Berkley form a men's club. Former baseball star Cavanaugh (Roy Scheider) is a hound dog cheating on his wife Sarah. He brings his family-man friend Berkley professor Phillip (David Dukes) into the group. Kramer (Richard Jordan) is a psychotherapist. Solly Berliner (Harvey Keitel) is a real estate broker cheating on his wife. Harold Canterbury (Frank Langella) is a senior partner in his law firm and his wife left him after finding herself. Paul (Craig Wasson) is a manager at an auto parts company. Terry (Treat Williams) is a single doctor. Kramer's wife Nancy (Stockard Channing) comes home to find the group trashing the place. She kicks the men out and they decide to go to a high class gentlemen's club.

Cavanaugh rents out a brothel to vent out their frustrations.

The club is run by Jo with her puppet. She introduces Harold to Teensy (Jennifer Jason Leigh).

Solly Berliner (Harvey Keitel) falls in love with his hooker, setting up a wedding finale.


Transcript

The Men's Club (1986)

1107-1109
01:14:09,785 --> 01:14:23,215
Well, in this dream, people speak to me in Chinese.
And I understand them.
Not only that, I answer them in Chinese.

1110
01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:25,342
So?

1111-1113
01:14:26,927 --> 01:14:38,022
So, I don't speak Chinese.
What's it all about?
It means you're not really you.

1114
01:14:39,231 --> 01:14:40,899
You're a lost soul.

1115-1117
01:14:42,526 --> 01:14:51,410
You mean I'm really Chinese?
But I'm walking around like this?
Like I'm me, but not really me?

1118
01:14:53,287 --> 01:14:54,830
You got it.

1119-1120
01:14:55,039 --> 01:15:00,753
Wow.
I'm gonna have cards printed up.

1121-1122
01:15:01,754 --> 01:15:09,720
They're gonna say, "Lost Soul."
With your phone number underneath.​


Analysis

Fake dreams could simply be video files, audio files and may even be including other type of sensory files such as tactile, olfactive, enteric, thermal and equilibrioception kinematic-positioning files, that the 20'000 orbital U.S. MC satellites upload directly into the brain of a human target during sleep time, thus effectively achieving a sleep deprivation, ending up in the long term in a complete zombification.

The content of the fake dreams are a brainwashing, when repeated over months and years this will make the target so confused that it would believe its false implanted memories are the reality. Meanwhile real past memories will fade into oblivion, replaced by the new fakeries.

Note that brainwashing should not be confused with the fallacious so-called 'sleep-teaching'.

As a result, sleep deprived men become so demented that they could even end up marrying hookers as in this movie or worse, doubt about their own ▄ identity.

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I saw John Wick 4 on blu-ray. Never got to see in the theater. I have to say I was a bit disappointed after reading all these glorious reviews when the movie came out. I'm watching the action scenes in the movie that were shown in the trailer... I don't know if they sped it up in the trailer but watching the movie it seemed slower. The action choreography seemed lazy. Also I don't like this ballistic clothing thing. If they were truly bullet proof it would still be deadly. A lot of times you see people in the movie covering their heads with their clothes. If they were hit the head, it would still break the skull and kill you. Bullets will still penetrate the body but just with your clothes coming into the wounds also.
 

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I saw John Wick 4 on blu-ray. Never got to see in the theater. I have to say I was a bit disappointed after reading all these glorious reviews when the movie came out. I'm watching the action scenes in the movie that were shown in the trailer... I don't know if they sped it up in the trailer but watching the movie it seemed slower. The action choreography seemed lazy. Also I don't like this ballistic clothing thing. If they were truly bullet proof it would still be deadly. A lot of times you see people in the movie covering their heads with their clothes. If they were hit the head, it would still break the skull and kill you. Bullets will still penetrate the body but just with your clothes coming into the wounds also.
You need to treat the movie as a video game.
 
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Maybe I'm just over superheroes but I almost fell asleep watching the new Spider Man movie and was kind of taken aback how abrupt the ending was. I mean the animation was good and there were some fun scenes, but however well written the story is watching the same theme of superheroes dealing with identity crisis play out again starts to wear thin.
 

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Maybe I'm just over superheroes but I almost fell asleep watching the new Spider Man movie and was kind of taken aback how abrupt the ending was. I mean the animation was good and there were some fun scenes, but however well written the story is watching the same theme of superheroes dealing with identity crisis play out again starts to wear thin.
It's an appeal to the American Gen Z who themselves are suffering an identity crisis. This article explains this crisis really well via extremely solid sources and there is too much to summarize:
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I feel like this will be a competently directed, CGI'd and acted adaptation but I also suspect it will lack the distinctive Chinese traits that made the RoEP trilogy unique for what it was. Not necessarily only in terms of the seeming lack of focus on the Chinese characters in the first novel, but also the setting and the way that larger overarching plot points and themes are conveyed.

Still, I suppose there's nothing wrong with multiple adaptations existing.
 
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