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solarz

Brigadier
But why three movies? They're filled with so much garbage according to most accounts. Why not just two?

For cash grab, of course. In fact, The Hobbit could easily have fit into a single, albeit 3-hour, movie. It would have made a much tighter and more coherent film.

Of course, since we are given 3 movies instead, it doesn't hurt that it features Evangeline Lilly. :)
 

SampanViking

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If you're going to do something like fake a hack, it would have to be amusing and something you'd very quickly confirm was a hoax. Instead these hackers have:

a) distributed a lot of personal information (which Sony is getting sued for); and
b) threatened acts of terrorism that has led to the cancellation of the movie and therefore loss of revenue.

That's serious stuff, and no big company is going to do all that to get publicity. It's more the sort of thing some really small-time outfit or a loner would do, like a nobody author in around 2000 when he landed a microlight in Buckingham Palace and was nearly shot by a police helicopter.

I am vaguely interested in seeing The Interview, but only if it was free to watch/requested an optional charitable donation; I wouldn't pay to see it.

I was thinking more of the production team, rather than Sony to be honest.

I was envisaging them leaving a meeting after been told that their movie was a total Turkey, destined to go direct to DVD as the Cinema's were not interested and that Sony would not be participating in their next project.

As A.Mace points out, there are people closer than Pyongyang that will arrange such a visitation and the word on the net suggests that Sony was not exactly a tough security nut to crack.

Now "lo and behold" the movie has had free promo worth millions and will now; no doubt, be billed as "The Movie North Korea did not want you to see!"

I note that some Cinema's have agreed to show the film on Christmas Day, which sounds like the cinematic equivalent of PA TV at 4am. Sounds to me, like they still think its a Turkey!
 

broadsword

Brigadier
It can't be the Koreans.

Many experts aren’t buying the theory that North Korea is behind Sony hack

December 23, 2014 3:49PM


IT’S one of the most tantalising and juicy stories of the year. According to the official narrative, The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea executed a sophisticated cyber attack on Sony Pictures, leaking secret documents and issuing threats all because they were disgruntled about a satirical movie depicting the assassination of their dear leader.

It’s a story that is even more fitting of a cinematic spoof than the actual film in question.

While the FBI has officially linked North Korea to the hack, the evidence isn’t strong and despite the natural inclination for the world to want to believe the supreme authority of the FBI, it wouldn’t be the first time the government body has misled the public.

So is it actually true? Is North Korea the culprit or just a convenient scapegoat? A lot of very informed people don’t believe the FBI’s story.

Actor Randall Park portrays North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Columbia Pictures' "The In

Actor Randall Park portrays North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Columbia Pictures' "The Interview." Source: AP

Pinning the Sony hack on Kim Jong Un’s goons is certainly politically convenient but a number of independent security experts have been poking holes in the theory for days now.

Security consultant Dan Tentler quickly refuted the evidence put forth by the FBI, saying that the malware tools identified in the attack which were linked to North Korea were “purchasable” and presumably could have been bought and used by anyone.

A former member of the notorious hacker group Anonymous said in an interview with CBS, “look at the bandwidth going into North Korea. I mean, the pipelines, the pipes going in, handling data, they only have one major ISP across their entire nation. That kind of information flowing at one time would have shut down North Korean internet completely.”

Sony has received heavy criticism for capitulating to the cyber attackers.

Sony has received heavy criticism for capitulating to the cyber attackers. Source: AP

One of the weightiest rebuttals of the case against North Korea is that of renowned hacker, DEFCON organiser, and CloudFlare researcher Marc Roges who outlined his scepticism in a 10 point blog post.

The hackers have called themselves Guardians of the Peace and the broken English in the posts they’ve left behind has been questionable, and Mr. Rodgers isn’t buying it.

“The broken English looks deliberately bad and doesn’t exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in “Konglish”. i.e. it reads to me like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English,” he wrote.

Mr. Rodgers posits that it is far more likely to be someone who had intimate knowledge of Sony’s system and points to the likelihood of a disgruntled (possibly ex) employee of Sony.

“It’s clear from the hard-coded paths and passwords in the malware that whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sony’s internal architecture and access to key passwords.”

The idea that it could be the work of a Sony insider is somewhat bolstered by the early nature of the hacks which took on a revenge-like quality and also offered the chance for some Sony employees not to have personally embarrassing information leaked.

Mr. Rodgers views the threats around the release of Seth Rogen’s movie as a classic piece of opportunistic misdirection by the hackers.

“The attackers only latched onto “The Interview” after the media did — the film was never mentioned by GOP right at the start of their campaign. It was only after a few people started speculating in the media that this and the communication from DPRK “might be linked” that suddenly it became linked,” he wrote.

Even after the FBI presented their evidence against North Korea, Mr. Rodgers was even less convinced saying it showed “a fundamental misunderstanding of how the internet works and in particular how hackers operate.”

You couldn’t ask for better publicity for a film premier.

You couldn’t ask for better publicity for a film premier. Source: AFP

The notion that ‘The Interview’ is a red herring is supported by Kim Zetter of Wired magazine. She points out that an extortion e-mail sent to Sony execs three days before the hack sought “monetary compensation” and made absolutely no mention of the film. “It appears to be an attempt at extortion, not an expression of political outrage or a threat of war,” she wrote.

Harvard law professor and security expert, Jake Goldsmith also has reservations about the FBI’s official theory and the tenuous evidence that underpins it.

“The “evidence” is of the most conclusory nature — it is really just unconfirmed statements by the USG,” he wrote.

Joining the chorus of naysayers is Peter W. Singer, one of America’s foremost experts on cybersecurity. The author of Cybersecurity and Cyberwar: What Everyone Needs to Know, said the evidence against North Korea is “contextual.” “It wouldn’t meet the level needed in a court of law,” he said.

The promotional movie posters evoke propagandist imagery. But these days propaganda is fa

The promotional movie posters evoke propagandist imagery. But these days propaganda is far more subtle ... Source: AFP

North Korean officials have denied involvement with the Sony hacks but that has been in stark contrast to the comical behaviour of the hackers signing off an e-mail as “North Korean Hacking Team.”

Seriously.

There is a commonly used credo among hackers that they are motivated by ‘the lulz’ — an internet parlance for amusement. And deflecting the world’s accusations onto Kim Jong Un would certainly be a serious amount of lulz.
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Finally see The Hobbit 3 today in 3D movie. The movie is great though there is some small detail that I don't really appreciated.

How do you guys feel about 3D movies? Honestly, I'm a little dizzy when the actions are moving fast. Maybe the technology is not 100% mature yet.
 

vesicles

Colonel
Finally see The Hobbit 3 today in 3D movie. The movie is great though there is some small detail that I don't really appreciated.

How do you guys feel about 3D movies? Honestly, I'm a little dizzy when the actions are moving fast. Maybe the technology is not 100% mature yet.

I dont like 3D movies at all. The current 3D technology can't faithfully generate 3D experience. And I always get a headache afterward. Don't like! Don't like it at all! Until they come up with a new way of producing 3D, I won't watch 3D movies.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
It can't be the Koreans.

“The broken English looks deliberately bad and doesn’t exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in “Konglish”. i.e. it reads to me like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English,” he wrote.

Looks like some non-Asians got caught pretending to be a FOB.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I am getting a headache form this. I am getting a headache because Everyone is so Obsessed with the Stupid movie and the Stupid Allegations around it, That the Reality of North Korea is lost. The Movie Which has pretty much Flopped. It cost 44 million to film and has over the weekend made maybe 10% of that.
This stupidity is part of the Problem when Dealing with anything involving North Korea. All We see is the oddity. And it doesn't Click. All We see is the Clown and Harley Quinn. We see the Dear Leader with this stupid Hair his Stupid costume And The Attractive people he lets us see standing there bowing to his every whim. His Gimmick and Schtick All we Hear is the Laughter. That's What this is It's a distraction it's cover it's carnival...
I mean If north Korea was behind the hacking or not doesn't matter to me. Why? Because it's not even icing on the cake that is the list of acts done in the name of the Kims.
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Compared to this The Movie doesn't even warrant debate. Stop looking at the Joker's gimmicks for a second and look at the trail of corpses he leaves in his wake.
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The problem with historical fiction, as well as contemporary fiction, especially those "based on" or "inspired by true events" is that people who don't care to learn about the real thing, or deliberately don't want to, will end up treating fictitious entertainment as fact.
 
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