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In all fairness this would fit perfectly with the continuity and style of Claremont era X-men, and could be a reference to the Grant Morrison run on X-men.

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With that said, yes it is incredibly strange and out there, it would've been acceptable to have gone a route similar to Superman returns and just say X3 never happened.
 

siegecrossbow

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I just saw Godzilla. Spoilers ahead:

The Good: Bryan Cranston's acting. Spectacular special effects and action sequences that, in my opinion at least, were superior to Pacific Rim's. Very "realistic" (for the lack of a better word) monster designs that feel like they have mass. You will understand why there is "God" in Godzilla's name when you see him for the very first time in the film! Since many of the monster fights literally occur in the back drop of human drama you get to feel how terrifying it must've been for the poor people on the ground during monster rampage.

The film also didn't pull any punch when it comes to sheer destruction and the consequences of the destruction (ahem, Man of Steel, ahem). You have lingering shots of collapsed buildings as well as the dead and injured (none mangled, for ratings reason). It felt more serious than most disaster films at times and there were numerous references to real-life disasters like 9-11.

Cinematography wise the film is gorgeous. Some of the shots, like the HALO jump scene that was delightfully spoiled by the trailers, literally sent chills down my spine since it matched so well with Lux Aeterna (originally used with great effect in 2001: A Space Odyssey, my favourite film of all time). The shots of Godzilla's dorsal fin reminded me of Jaws in how it kept the monster's true appearance a secret for most of the film.

The Bad: Is it just me or did anyone else think that the dude from Kick Ass didn't have what it takes to carry the film? He literally couldn't emote, even when *******************major spoiler**************** his dad (Cranston) died. I felt like reaching across the screen and smacking him across the head. It's your dad dude! Show that you care!

The lines were banal for the most part and it is unintentionally hilarious when you see someone of Cranston's calibre saying them with any seriousness. It almost felt like bad Malcolm in the Middle improv at times. Acting wise Elizabeth Olson was ok, but Ken Watanabe was seriously underused. All he did 70% of the time was just standing there, slack-jawed, as some plot important character approaches him for technobabble/exposition. That said, the film teetered on info-dumpery at times instead of showing or subtly hinting at plot-important information. We are not all idiots, Mr. Director!

I won't even get into the plot. Basically one giant excuse for pitting Godzilla against some monsters wreaking havoc on major American cities. To make Godzilla more sympathetic he inexplicably avoids colliding with ships and didn't even step on puny humans unless fired on. How is that for realism in an otherwise gritty film?

Overall, pretty disappointing considering how great the trailers were. One must not trust the trailers to much, I suppose.
 

kyanges

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That's because they decided to use the version of Godzilla where he's the hero. I think it's realistic enough in the context of the universe the movie takes place in, for Godzilla to be smart enough to avoid destroying what he didn't need to.

I'd say that Godzilla had a better sense of scale in the monster scenes compared to Pacific Rim, but they were both very good in their own right.

For the most part I agree with what you said.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I rewatched it the other night myself. And yes it could have been better.
I also noted in my second viewing repeated homage to Jurassic park ,2001, Apocalypse now, Superman (Christopher Reave) and King Kong. As well as Mothra Easter eggs. And there was a definitive 9/11 metaphor at the end.
 
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siegecrossbow

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That's because they decided to use the version of Godzilla where he's the hero. I think it's realistic enough in the context of the universe the movie takes place in, for Godzilla to be smart enough to avoid destroying what he didn't need to.

I'd say that Godzilla had a better sense of scale in the monster scenes compared to Pacific Rim, but they were both very good in their own right.

For the most part I agree with what you said.

I can see that in the original series (especially Godzilla vs Megalon) but remember that they are doing a relatively "realistic" take on the monsters here. For me the scene where everybody cheered when Godzilla got up and walked away without so much squashing one paramedic felt extremely cheesy and wasn't in line with the mood of the film.

That said I think I calmed down enough about the film to look at it objectively, yet even then there are parts that tick me off to no end. ******Spoilers******* The build up to the nuclear bomb especially ticked me off since in order for "kick-ass" to survive the movie, he needs to either -

1) disarm the bomb in the nick of time (Hollywood Cliche)
2) some how start the boat and send it out across San Francisco Bay and then swim back (Hollywood cliche) and survive the nuclear blast (Hey, Indiana Jones did it in a fridge!).

I was especially scared of them taking the second route since it would've been Dark Knight Rises all over again, except without the "because I'm Batman" excuse. What did they do instead? Something that's even worse! They resolved it with a Deus Ex Machina! For all of Amazing Spider-man 2's problems they didn't just get a helicopter to swoop in and save Gwen Stacy at the last minute. What was the writer thinking?

That said, I think that my expectations for blockbuster films are a tad higher after seeing Winter Soldier. Maybe Godzilla and Amazing Spider-man 2 won't look so bad once I've watched the new Transformers or the TMNT remake.
 

broadsword

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They heard me. :p There will be a remake of Ben-Hur after all.

Mark Burnett, Roma Downey Board ‘Ben-Hur’ Remake

April 25, 2014 | 07:17AM PT
Film Reporter
Dave McNary
Film Reporter @Variety_DMcNary

Mark Burnett and Roma Downey (“Son of God”) have joined MGM-Paramount’s “Ben-Hur” as producers.

The studios are co-producing the film, set for release on Feb. 26, 2016.

Burnett joins Sean Daniel (“The Mummy” franchise) and Joni Levin as a producer. Downey is an executive producer.

“Wanted” director Timur Bekmambetov is helming from a screenplay originally written by Keith Clarke with revisions by “12 Years a Slave” writer John Ridley, who will exec produce along with Clarke and Jason F. Brown.

The project began taking shape last year when MGM acquired Clarke’s script, an adaption of Lew Wallace’s 1880 novel “Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ.” That story focuses on the years prior to those portrayed the 1959 film, centering on the characters Judah Ben-Hur, a Jewish prince and merchant in Jerusalem, and his childhood friend Messala, who returns home as a commanding officer of the Roman legions and betrays the Ben-Hur family.

The novel is in the public domain. The 1959 movie, which was set in ancient Rome, was directed by William Wyler and produced by Sam Zimbalist. It starred Charlton Heston, Stephen Boyd, Jack Hawkins and Hugh Griffith and won 11 Oscars, including best picture.

The 1925 movie version of “Ben-Hur,” starring Ramon Novarro and Francis X. Bushman, was also a major success.

“We are thrilled to have Mark and Roma join the production team to bring such an indelible classic story to the big screen,” said MGM topper Gary Barber. “Their unrivaled passion, creativity and success in the faith based content space, will be a huge asset to the film and we look forward to working together.”

Downey and Burnett executive produced “The Bible” TV series last year for History. Fox released the movie version in February and the film has topped $59 million in the U.S.

“What an honor it will be to help bring this epic film back to the big screen,” said Downey and Burnett. “When Gary Barber allowed us to read John Ridley’s amazing script, we immediately knew we had to join this team.”
 
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