China: Cry ab it!
Man the comments in yahoo and zerohedge are super based nowadays.
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Man the comments in yahoo and zerohedge are super based nowadays.
Currently, gallium is obtained mainly from mining and mineral processing of bauxite ore for aluminum, although some gallium is also derived from the processing of sphalerite ore for zinc.
U.S. bauxite deposits are mainly subeconomic resources that are not generally suitable for aluminum production owing to their high silica content; consequently, recovery of gallium from these deposits is unlikely.
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Basically this is reverse UNO on chip ban, in short-medium term, like China is facing difficulty, US would too, in long run, they'll figure it out, just like China. Only difference is, China will reap huge long term economic benefits while US will need to invest in it's uneconomic and dying mining industry. :0
Chinese software and hardware giants laughing all the way to the bank.
News like this is why I believe that 拜振华 and 川建国 are two sides of the same coin, the coin that happens to be in China's pockets.
This comes off as one of the stupidest moves ever, since AWS, Azure, and GCP already have very limited market share in China, and this simply ensures they never get a chance to regain it.
But logically, it is "necessary" because otherwise it creates a loop hole for Chinese AI companies to use American cloud service providers to totally bypass the high-end chips sanctions. Presuming you are an US exports control official, you'd be incompetent at your job if you allowed for such a large loop hole.
Nonetheless, great news for Alibaba, Huawei, etc. Those Chinese data center AI GPUs are going to sell like hot cakes.
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Not far from where I live...scary times in the United States of America
China is finally speaking in their language. That's why all the commenters are so happy.
To the Anglo race, rivalry is respect, conflict is communication, cruelty is love.
That's why Americans are so obsessed with Oedipus complex and the Greek mythology. To them, patricide is the ultimate coming of age ritual, where only by murdering his father will the son earn his mother's respect and have himself acknowledged by Western society.
This murderous instinct is so inherent to the Anglo family dynamic that Freud thought it was a fundamental part of the human psyche.
By practicing filial piety, barbaric Confucian societies spit in the face of this civilized Western tradition. Every time China says something something "harmony", they offend the Americans more.
By eschewing conflict, China is taking away their chance of a glorious warrior death. The US will not go down in history as a martyr, but as a disgrace.
Don't worry, the west will get deGallium from France and Germanium from Germany. That's how their politicians think science works, right?
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This is very close to peak retard. Seems like we are getting there, and will see peak retard real soon. Three reasons this is completely nuts.
Most of the cloud hardware probably made in China. Like duh! That is the American position. Free trade is good. When they buy the gear from China sources. Free trade is bad. When they do not want Chinese entities to use the American hardware they obtained from Chinese sources.
Did it ever occur to them the Chinese might one day ban those sources from selling them that gear? No, it never did. To the Americans it is very simple. Free trade is good. Free trade (in services) is bad.
Everything is on the cloud, so this could be another attempt to try to ban TikTok, as that entire platform is hosted on a cloud somewhere.
Did they realize that the American constitution is still at play here? A direct, or indirect ban, that is still an attempt at censorship in the land of porno-everywhere.
In open court, the attorneys can bring in expert witnesses, and the judge will listen to that testimony. Is there a difference between a direct ban on TikTok or an indirect ban on TikTok from accessing a cloud server? Peak ignorance!
Banning Chinese companies or entities inside China from using American cloud services, that is close to peak retard.
The PRC has a law that data originating from China, must stay in China. The data must be localized, in the domestic cloud, and in the China market that would be Alibaba, Tencent, Huawei, etc. The Chinese entity inside China, will not use the American cloud provided with their servers based in America. Why would they? It would be more expensive probably, and against Chinese law.
Why would a Chinese scientist developing hypersonic missiles, take the data from the wind tunnel and put it on the American company cloud servers on American soil? And this is what they are thinking of banning, banning something that does not exist. And will not exist.
