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xypher

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Once China regains the rightful place they will change their tune. We have historic precedence for this. Behold Voltaire, one of the key thinkers whose work led to the creation of Western Democracy.

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I think you overestimate the likes of Minxin Pei, lol, he is just peddling the mainstream line. Voltaire was uber progressive for his times, one of his quotes:
It does not require great art, or magnificently trained eloquence, to prove that Christians should tolerate each other. I, however, am going further: I say that we should regard all men as our brothers. What? The Turk my brother? The Chinaman my brother? The Jew? The Siam? Yes, without doubt; are we not all children of the same father and creatures of the same God?
That's in 18th century when the rest of the euros were busy genociding, raping, stealing & colonizing the world. I mean, even today how many europeans\anglos really think that way? Especially when we add ideology into account.

I am not as optimistic on the outcome - I think Anglos will only get progressively more hateful & angry instead of going Voltaire's way.
 
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siegecrossbow

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I think you overestimate the likes of Minxin Pei, lol, he is just peddling the mainstream line. Voltaire was uber progressive for his times, one of his quotes:

That's in 18th century when the rest of the euros were busy genociding, raping, stealing & colonizing the world. I mean, even today how many europeans\anglos really think that way? Especially when we add ideology into account.

I am not as optimistic on the outcome - I think Anglos will only get progressively more hateful & angry instead of going Voltaire's way.

It won’t matter though. The Chinese were hateful of European colonists but that really didn’t change ground reality.
 

tokenanalyst

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Bloomberg journalist: Why China is so bad at doing things.

Also Bloomberg journalist: The country has a reputation for accomplishing impossible tasks.

The moron manage to invalidate his entire article just in the first sentence.

Pick one, either they are bad at doing things or they can accomplish impossible tasks.

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emblem21

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I think you overestimate the likes of Minxin Pei, lol. Voltaire was uber progressive for his times, one of his quotes:

That's in 18th century when the rest of the euros were busy genociding, raping, stealing & colonizing the world. I mean, even today how many europeans\anglos really think that way? Especially when we add ideology into account.
Given how much they seem to fail when it comes to those very values seems to demonstrate how those very same Christian values are in such decline across the world when people consider Christianity as a license to basically be an evil western colonist. I would say that these westerners are playing with fire for using the gospel as a license to commit evil and a lot of things happening against the west is in retribution for that very fact. Still all these Christian NGOs and missionaries should be lined up and shot because none of these fronts have any good intentions. We have evidence for this all over the place, even in HK and the only way for the gospel to spread in the world without prejudice is to simply eliminate western input by any means necessary because anyone with a brain knows that western input is always evil. I mean look at the crusades and tell me that the Christians then Didn’t start those fights when if one has actually read the text wouldnt start these fights in the very first place. Simply shows how these western fakes either cannot read the Ten Commandments when any idiot should know what this means or simply instinctively seeks conflict and that the only thing needed now is to not only fight back but to also break the back of the bully so to speak so he can never lift another arm to harm anyone
 

tokenanalyst

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Bloomberg journalist: Why China is so bad at doing things.

Also Bloomberg journalist: The country has a reputation for accomplishing impossible tasks.

The moron manage to invalidate his entire article just in the first sentence.

Pick one, either they are bad at doing things or they can accomplish impossible tasks.

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He talks about semiconductor like is making t-shirts, till today the most advance fab in the US is Intel 10nm and till today US doesn't have PureAndPlay foundries, remember SMIC is 14nm, the most advance fab in Europe is guess what? 14nm and is still an Intel fab, I think the best European own fab is 28nm, remember HHgrace fab is 28/22nm.

So if China is so bad about semiconductors, why is the US so afraid? Why it have to take export controls harsher than those on the cold war to even slow down a bit China progress in this area?

There are only just 3 countries in the entire world capable of doing ArF scanners Japan, Holland and China, say what you want about SMEE but just the fact that a company of the size of SMEE manage to create an ArF step and scan lithography machine is an impossible task on its own, sadly market forces and the lack of support from SMIC and others didn't let the machine to flourish but still a great accomplishment.
 

FriedButter

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Bloomberg journalist: Why China is so bad at doing things.

Also Bloomberg journalist: The country has a reputation for accomplishing impossible tasks.

The moron manage to invalidate his entire article just in the first sentence.

Pick one, either they are bad at doing things or they can accomplish impossible tasks.

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It’s the same excuses that they all used lmao. Seems like the majority of them have finally reached the bargaining stage.

While resources are certainly needed, they’re not dispositive. Other factors — collaboration, innovation, competition, autonomy, and maverick streaks — are just as essential to success.
 

ansy1968

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President Xi is as pro American as they can get. Ofc he's not a bootlicker like Von der Leyen or an imbecile like Baerbok, but Xi's brand of pro Americanism means advocating for joint leadership, that is, inherent acknowledgement of American "right to lead". Xi once spent major time in America and also allowed his daughter to do it, he is a dove on America, advocating for the "G2" politics, which are akin to marriage with the enemy.

But he is also a very competent leader, so one can absolutely not characterise him solely due to being soft against US. He sees through the most toxic elements inside current US regime and deeply understands how to deal with them, he also knows that domestically, he cannot be too friendly on America. Ultimately to Xi, his role in advancing domestic politics and China's UN duties supercedes his friendliness to America, so while he might soften the blows against Washington, he will still dish out the bare minimum of necessary moves to safeguard the international situation.

Xi and the few others that have the exact same views as him are likely one of the last friends of America that exist in China. Those were the final wave of politicians where the people can accept that they have foreign connections.

Once they're gone, policy will change from defending status quo to threat elimination.
Bro I have to disagree on you on this one, Obama propose G2 codename Chimerica and the collective CCP leadership at that time reject it thus the introduction of Obama Pivot to Asia policy, Xi want China to develop on its own accord and know that time is on her side, having live in the US, he at least had an understanding of American culture and their way of life, the evidence is plain to see, a calmed , matured and strategic respond.
 
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