Asiatimes isn't an American paper though is it?
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Asiatimes isn't an American paper though is it?
SinoSoldier
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The balloon is almost certainly a SIGINT platform, so every second it is left in the air is time that the US is allowing it to gather more critical data, hence the urgency to shoot it down. Destroying it is necessary as a defensive measure.
And I don't think the US needs to justify shooting it down despite the military necessity to do so. It is an adversarial military platform operating in the US' national airspace for crying out loud.
I never said that the US couldn't shoot it down.
After all, shooting down an intruding aerial object in one's own airspace is legal, and the Chinese government hasn't suggested it was illegal either.
I'm still uncertain as to whether the balloon had a military purpose, personally.
But seeing as you are very convinced it is, the US certainly was so urgent in shooting it down that they waited for the balloon to pass from Alaska to the Atlantic across the contiguous US. Made especially more confusing if recent articles in the last half day about how this isn't the first balloon like so, yet this was the first balloon to consume the US news cycle and be intercepted so publicly.
This article is surprisingly not well written at all. For some reason he is presenting as though ASEAN states(other than Singapore) will be the next Asian Tiger Econnomies, that is objectively inaccurate. Be it Indonesia, Thailand, Phillipines or Vietnam, all of them has woefully low investment level in education, human resources and infrastructure for decades and does not have the prerequisite for their economy structure to transition into high income nation. The only ones with latent potential on paper are Malaysia and Indonesia, well the former is addicted on racist policies like pribumi, cases like MDB1 while Indonesia need Blackrock to run their sovereign fund.
It is not a typical MSM in the west, but I am not sure. I am a paid subscriber. The fact that it values people like Pepe Escobar and David Goldman and M.K. Bhadrakumar as important contributors tells me that it is not a western MSM.
The idea that The US has any right to complain about any violation to their sovereignty is so ludicrous that individuals who advance this argument certainly suffers from brain damage. A country that consistently invade other on causes proven to be false again and again, who unilaterally enforces no-fly zone upon other has absolutely no right to complain about ANY violation of airspace.
But degenerates like you who have been thoroughly propagandized refuse to reflect upon their own actions and arguments and continues to pollute this forum with your non-arguments. Save the forum some bandwidth and yourself some electricity and shove your BS back up your ass.
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if they were attempting to jam the balloon, then they would have been revealing jamming signals to the literal dozens of Chinese ELINT satellites flying overhead. Even ground based tight microwave relays aimed at other points on the ground can be eavesdropped upon by ELINT satellites low on the horizon.
eavesdropping by plane is impossible, as satcoms aim straight up, and the service ceiling of their planes is lower than the balloon altitude. that leaves their satellites, which requires no special announcement.
there's no way to save face for them. they either went apeshit over a simple weather balloon, incompetently revealed their hand, or lied to save face. looks to me like the most facesaving is "went apeshit over simple weather balloon".
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Well, in relative terms, ASEAN is well on its way to become the 4th economic pillar in the world, after US, EU and China. ASEAN has been talking about forming a common economic block like EU for years. In the process, countries such as Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and Malaysia can develop similar to China circa 2001. In political openness, some of the ASEAN countries are ahead of China. There will be scandals in the process. But looking forward as a whole, ASEAN is the most promising economic block in the world for the foreseeable future. ASEAN has all the pieces to be an economic superpower, having way better prospects than India or Brazil or Africa.
No offense but this is a very stupid analogy, to put it politely.
A Rustom drone is a powered aircraft. When it makes hypothetical violation of Chinese airspace it is very clearly intended to by the operator.
A weather balloon, on the other hand, is not a powered aircraft (at least this one wasn't). Unless the Chinese have somehow mastered the control of the jet stream there is no way to precisely control where the thing is going to go. As a matter of fact it has been recently disclosed that three similar devices have traversed across U.S. airspace in 2019, at the height of the trade war during the Trump organization. The fact that not even the Donald made a fuss about it back then tells me all that I need to know.