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FriedButter

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Let's see if this is real. Another attempt at killing Imran Khan

Apparently, Imran has accused Shahbaz Sharif, Maj Gen Faisal and Rana Sanaullah of the attempt in a statement. It’s not in English so idk what they are saying.


People are also pointing out this comment. Now I can’t verify it so take it with skepticism but it’s supposedly a comment from the ISPR aka the PR wing of the Pakistani Army.

The images shows the statement at 1:49 PM. The assassination attempt was around 4:00 PM.
 
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BlackWindMnt

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From what I'm seeing IF Germany flip will Italy follow? or the Netherlands? @BlackWindMnt bro need your opinion, there seems to have a huge push back against the EU Russian sanction.
Big majority haven't made the connection yet that it's the sanctions that are constricting supplies to Europe and increasing the cost of living. They actually think it's the Russians not willing to sell on the world markets anymoreo_O. Many of my colleagues also think Europe has warehouses full of solar panels, heat pumps, windmills etc all that is needed is a signature from provincial governor "We will innovate/build our asses out of this crisis" while i think this will become a structural thing at least for the next decade maybe even the next two decades... Big big majority are still very pro Ukraine, Russian information streams have pretty much been blocked, even RT telegram channel has been blocked over here.

What you see on the internet is mostly just a small but loud minority, so i don't expect the Netherlands to flip at least not publicly any time soon. The farmer protests over the summer was way more intense than what i'm hearing right now regarding EU sanctions. But then again winter has not yet arrived you can actually still walk around in t-shirt or sweater these days its like 14~18 degrees celsius.

Also a lot of the complaining has died down because the Dutch government for this winter has introduced a price ceiling and energy bill compensation, so most will get through this winter just fine. But at what costs, it means hundreds of millions if not billions that are not being invested in other sectors that also need financing like health care, which even now is being over loaded because of covid or education when i grew up dutch education was top 5~10 in the world now we don't or hardly even rank top 10 anymore.

Im mostly talking about rural areas the urban centres called the Randstad might be completely different but i expect them to be even more pro Ukraine and pro EU not toward sovereignty and just call Ukraine a lost cause side of things and deal with Russians diplomatically. Please don't take this as fact this is just my anecdotal experience right now at the moment.

PS: I'm sure the dutch government has loopholes for their loopholes to still do some trade with Russia, thats a bit of our specialty back stabbing Brussels while still acting like saints.
 

horse

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From what I'm seeing IF Germany flip will Italy follow? or the Netherlands?

Yeah brother, Germany already seems to be half flipped or a quarter flipped towards China.

Germany is a small country after all, so they cannot go around demanding too much.

What has not flipped in Germany towards China is the politics, but China does not need that or want that. Germany politics can stay in Germany, while business continues.

The political people do not seem to understand how entrenched are these commercial relationships.

Suppose Germany and China go the route of Germany and Russia this past year. Beside the lost of trade, China becomes an even more fierce competitor economically on the world stage directly competing against German industry everywhere on the globe.

Clearly, German industry will benefit more by cooperating with China.

Since it seems they already half flipped, best thing China should do is keep them divided, which providing trade will accomplish that.

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daifo

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Exiled BNOers complaining and making demands. Maybe they will riot and do fire magic ;) UK about to go belly up, i guess its a good time to go tough on China. Win-Win either way from my viewpoint.

These BNO/overseas complainers are like the craze EX that is still complaining about their former partner years after the relationship is over. Protesting about Xi or CCP in X country? Whats the point?

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Temstar

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Big majority haven't made the connection yet that it's the sanctions that are constricting supplies to Europe and increasing the cost of living. They actually think it's the Russians not willing to sell on the world markets anymoreo_O. Many of my colleagues also think Europe has warehouses full of solar panels, heat pumps, windmills etc all that is needed is a signature from provincial governor "We will innovate/build our asses out of this crisis" while i think this will become a structural thing at least for the next decade maybe even the next two decades... Big big majority are still very pro Ukraine, Russian information streams have pretty much been blocked, even RT telegram channel has been blocked over here.

What you see on the internet is mostly just a small but loud minority, so i don't expect the Netherlands to flip at least not publicly any time soon. The farmer protests over the summer was way more intense than what i'm hearing right now regarding EU sanctions. But then again winter has not yet arrived you can actually still walk around in t-shirt or sweater these days its like 14~18 degrees celsius.

Also a lot of the complaining has died down because the Dutch government for this winter has introduced a price ceiling and energy bill compensation, so most will get through this winter just fine. But at what costs, it means hundreds of millions if not billions that are not being invested in other sectors that also need financing like health care, which even now is being over loaded because of covid or education when i grew up dutch education was top 5~10 in the world now we don't or hardly even rank top 10 anymore.

Im mostly talking about rural areas the urban centres called the Randstad might be completely different but i expect them to be even more pro Ukraine and pro EU not toward sovereignty and just call Ukraine a lost cause side of things and deal with Russians diplomatically. Please don't take this as fact this is just my anecdotal experience right now at the moment.

PS: I'm sure the dutch government has loopholes for their loopholes to still do some trade with Russia, thats a bit of our specialty back stabbing Brussels while still acting like saints.
The next one to flip in EU will probably be France.

In fact it was Macron that started this trend. Back last year when CAI was off and EU and China was doing sanctions on each other Macron was the first to do a sneaky deal directly between France and China, cutting out EU in the process:
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For two billion euro investment he showed up personally for the occasion. Afterwards Macron got all that bitch slapping going his way with the cancelled sub deal and so on and he started cowering. But his first breaking of the rank might have given people the idea.

Macron has already said he wants to visit Beijing and he even did that thing where he suggested he and Scholz should go together. This time the germans were clever and said oh no you la don't.
 
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