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emblem21

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Something of interest, it may seem as though the USA intends to enrich themselves by de-industrialising Europe and transferring the factories and such to the USA. But their is one extremely big problem with this super plan. The fact that it take years to set up such factories and industries in the USA, which ultimately means more resources and money spent to set up shop when the easiest alternative can be found in Asia, specifically in China. Now they might say that it is cheaper then the EU by setting up these factories in the USA but the problem is much of the population in the future wouldn’t be able to purchase these goods, not to mention the USA already has supply chain problems and resource problems as it is. I mean they are already using there strategic reserves with reckless abandon, that should be indication that something is very wrong with this comic book plan, like the last couple of times they tried to get Korea and Taiwan to build chip factories in Texas only for that plan to go bust due to costs and lack of return.

I guess this means that the USA plan is basically a self ownage of their own sorry selves by busting up their own allies to make themselves richer, only to realise that most of these companies would rather go to China to use their factories due to China possessing all the know how, factories and more of all the cheaper gas and oil from Russia to run everything. So basically, we can say China wins by basically going nothing while the west is killed by the USA lead by a brain dead Brandon. You can’t make this stuff up
 

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Something of interest, it may seem as though the USA intends to enrich themselves by de-industrialising Europe and transferring the factories and such to the USA. But their is one extremely big problem with this super plan. The fact that it take years to set up such factories and industries in the USA, which ultimately means more resources and money spent to set up shop when the easiest alternative can be found in Asia, specifically in China. Now they might say that it is cheaper then the EU by setting up these factories in the USA but the problem is much of the population in the future wouldn’t be able to purchase these goods, not to mention the USA already has supply chain problems and resource problems as it is. I mean they are already using there strategic reserves with reckless abandon, that should be indication that something is very wrong with this comic book plan, like the last couple of times they tried to get Korea and Taiwan to build chip factories in Texas only for that plan to go bust due to costs and lack of return.

I guess this means that the USA plan is basically a self ownage of their own sorry selves by busting up their own allies to make themselves richer, only to realise that most of these companies would rather go to China to use their factories due to China possessing all the know how, factories and more of all the cheaper gas and oil from Russia to run everything. So basically, we can say China wins by basically going nothing while the west is killed by the USA lead by a brain dead Brandon. You can’t make this stuff up
The USD is insanely strong right now. Whatever return you make from investing there is going to be wiped out by the currency risk. In other words, European factories are heading to China, not the US.
 

JebKerman

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Meanwhile after cutting tax for the rich and signalling even more tax cuts for the rich.

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Unless something is done immediately, it's GG for the UK.

My LiFePo4 battery, solar panels, and new electric blanket from aliexpress are now my plan for the winter.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Something of interest, it may seem as though the USA intends to enrich themselves by de-industrialising Europe and transferring the factories and such to the USA. But their is one extremely big problem with this super plan. The fact that it take years to set up such factories and industries in the USA, which ultimately means more resources and money spent to set up shop when the easiest alternative can be found in Asia, specifically in China. Now they might say that it is cheaper then the EU by setting up these factories in the USA but the problem is much of the population in the future wouldn’t be able to purchase these goods, not to mention the USA already has supply chain problems and resource problems as it is. I mean they are already using there strategic reserves with reckless abandon, that should be indication that something is very wrong with this comic book plan, like the last couple of times they tried to get Korea and Taiwan to build chip factories in Texas only for that plan to go bust due to costs and lack of return.

I guess this means that the USA plan is basically a self ownage of their own sorry selves by busting up their own allies to make themselves richer, only to realise that most of these companies would rather go to China to use their factories due to China possessing all the know how, factories and more of all the cheaper gas and oil from Russia to run everything. So basically, we can say China wins by basically going nothing while the west is killed by the USA lead by a brain dead Brandon. You can’t make this stuff up
I think you're missing the fact that within the EU people are getting primed to go through the same sort of economic sanctions they put on Russia with China regarding a forced reunification operation. This means a big disruption between EU and China trade. EU companies that thought to be smart and go into China will be fucked over like what happened to western companies in Russia.

If the US expects their taiwan provocation with China will reach a conclusion in 2025~2027 that should give US owned companies that are based in the EU enough time to build up supply lines and factories in the US and also EU companies that still choose to go into China/Russia will be hit hard twice in a row.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Also meanwhile, it's a fire sale!

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This is probably the reason why the 5 eyes intelligence did their Xi being coup due to this impending now reality of the British currency depreciation debacle. It's to distract their sheeps from actually asking the right questions and demanding some accountability into what, where, how is Britain going to make it's house in order.
 

Strangelove

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Wang Yi, seen here being isolated by members of the UN after giving speech.


The German media "leaks" that Slotz may go to meet Xi... but with nothing official from the German foreign ministry. China should him come nonetheless, but only to Tianjin, to be greeted by Wang Yi only, who would be 30min late...


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Delegates of many countries waiting for Chinese delegation shows general aspiration: Global Times editorial

By Global Times Published: Sep 26, 2022 12:39 AM

Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi delivers a speech at the general debate of the 77th session of the United Nations (UN) General Assembly at the UN headquarters in New York, on Sept. 24, 2022. Photo: Xinhua

Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi delivers a speech at the general debate of the 77th session of the United Nations (UN) General Assembly at the UN headquarters in New York, on Sept. 24, 2022. Photo: Xinhua

As the general debate of the 77th session of the United Nations (UN) General Assembly kick-started this week, relevant diplomatic activities have also been intensively conducted in New York. The General Assembly convenes annually but it has appeared to be particularly special this year. At such a historic juncture when geopolitical competition is fierce and the world economy is facing a recession, what statements and performance will China make on the UN stage? The world has paid great attention to it and had high expectations, while Chinese diplomats have responded to this with a whirlwind of activities and high-quality dialogues.

Over the past week, China has held more than 40 bilateral and multilateral activities. Some observers say that the Chinese delegation may be one of the busiest delegations during the UN General Assembly meetings. We all know that the more severe and complex the international situation is, the more important for countries, especially major powers, to maintain communication and interaction. China's increasingly proactive diplomacy has actually promoted the formation of a more just and fairer international order, making irreplaceable contributions to regional and world peace and stability.

It's fair to say that China's diplomacy has the greatest stability and continuity among all major powers. At the general debate of the UN General Assembly, Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi laid out a six-point proposal on how to respond to the requirements of the times, grasp the trend of history, and jointly build a community with a shared future for mankind. He said countries must uphold peace and oppose war and turbulence; must pursue development and eliminate poverty; must remain open and oppose exclusion; must stay engaged in cooperation and oppose confrontation; must strengthen solidarity and oppose division and must uphold equity and oppose bullying. The six-point proposal has clearly clarified China's position on a series of major international issues.

How have representatives of other countries reacted to the proposal? A very convincing detail is that after the general debate ended, delegates of many countries waited outside the venue to shake hands and communicate with their Chinese counterparts to express their support and approval for China's proposal. Another interesting detail is that after Wang delivered his speech, some US and Western public opinion jumped out and claimed that Wang was targeting the US when he said "he who instigates a proxy war can easily burn his own hands" and "protectionism can only boomerang."

There is a profound cause-and-effect relationship for the self-awareness of US and Western public opinion and the fact that representatives of more countries spontaneously waited for the Chinese delegation after the meeting. Certain major countries regard the international public issues as their own yo-yo in their palm, while taking the global stage as their own karaoke hall. Other countries have been unwilling to be manipulated by them for quite a long time.

Three years ago, former US president Donald Trump claimed at the UNGA that "The future does not belong to globalists," while insisting that the US would never ratify the UN arms trade treaty. At the same location three years later, current US President Joe Biden called on countries to "abide by the UN Charter" and promoted "the vision of a free, open, secure, and prosperous world." Now, when independence is deeply rooted in the hearts and minds of people, how many sovereign countries among the 193 UN member states, apart from hard-core US allies, are still willing to follow the baton of American interests nowadays?

The common pursuit of all countries in the world cannot be swayed by the selfish issues of individual countries. The general aspirations of people of all countries cannot be replaced by the narrow interests of a small circle. The core agenda of this era is neither the "democracy vs autocracy" nor the deliberately strengthened bloc politics and camp confrontation, but global development and global security. The reason why China's proposition has aroused the general resonance is that it has clearly stated what everyone wants to say. The reason why our circle of friends continues to expand is that China has always been a builder of world peace, a contributor to global development, a defender of international order, a provider of public goods, and a mediator of hot-spot issues.

Even if China's stance is so clear and firm, there are still nitpicking. Certain countries and some politicians frequently express their "confusion," just because China did not take sides in the Russia-Ukraine conflicts, nor did it yield to shameless pressure according to their well-designed playbook. We can only conclude that they have put up a confusing face to create and manipulate the global public opinion to smear China's image. In the meantime, they could look for legitimate and rational excuses for the West's attacks. But as a major country, how can China dance to their beat? And we believe clear-minded people are the mainstream in the international community.

It has been noted that China once again stated its solemn stance on the Taiwan question at the UN General Assembly, "Any scheme to interfere in China's internal affairs is bound to meet the strong opposition of all us Chinese, and any move to obstruct China's cause of reunification is bound to be crushed by the wheels of history." China's diplomacy has always treated friends who seek peace, cooperation and unity with smiles, but reacted strongly to forces that provoke and undermine our core interests. These two distinct attitudes are parts that form China's certainty.
 
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