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daifo said:

I am not faulting Gu at all, I am faulting the way she got represented over other native athletes. For example, i remember seeing common posters where she is front focus over native athletes.

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Besides being talented, smart and relatively good-looking, she is also clearly being promoted for political reasons. Sports diplomacy was always big between US and China. After China reunites with Taiwan by 2027, how is China suppose to break the ice and promote cooperation with USA again? Did you also miss the other promotions of China and US curling team, Su bingtian's American coach and China/US ping-pong?

alfreddango said:

wait, I thought dual citizenship is not allowed in china
is this a case of rules for thee but not for me?

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China currently doesn't support dual citizenships, but Eileen Gu coverage is for officials to test the waters. Although PR/Nationality/Citizenship are slightly different, coverage of Eileen Gu and her eligibility for the Chinese team generated public discussion about dual PR/Nationality/Citizenship, which was the desired official goal. Imo China will relax some restrictions, maybe not change laws but stop strict enforcement of certain rules, see my previous post.

coolgod said:

She is propagandized by Chinese officials for a political reason, maybe you missed the value. There were a lot of heartfelt stories about diaspora returning to China (i.e., Chinese hockey team) to compete for the Olympics, Eileen was merely the poster child of that campaign. For economic/demographic reasons, China will have to allow and encourage (preferably skilled) Chinese diaspora back to the homeland.

To overseas Chinese and descendants/diaspora, it is a signal that China welcomes Chinese people back.

To domestic Chinese, this campaign is meant to change the domestic opinion in favour of more immigration of returning Chinese Diaspora.

It is my hope that China's official policy would also change to be more tolerant of dual citizenship to accompany the inevitable Chinese diaspora return policies.

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Not sure whether this has been posted here before, but here goes.


To put it simply, Biden wants a "China House" set up to address (read: counter, suppress and vilify) China on all fronts.

This means the United States desires a Cold War 2.0 with China.

Left with no other alternatives, China can do nothing, but to face the United States head on.

Though, I'm confident China would say: "Bring it on".

Remember, China is none of the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Japan, Italy, South Korea, and even the Soviet Union.

China IS China.

And in order for the Global South to survive, grow up and stand tall with dignity, China MUST WIN.

Its obvious that people don't read state media. Everything that gets promoted by state media has a political undertone

If People's daily, and even Xi himself talks about Gu there is a clear political message/narrative about her.

That's not bad or nerfarious. That's simply how China operates. You can also notice this on a People's Daily article where it suddenly starts reporting of a random and probably not widely known historic event where when you sit down and study it carefully you can draw parallels to what's happening now and is actually sending subtle signals to the readers.

In this case, the underlying political message sent from Gu's promotion by state media, relatively to other events, is imo very clear.

Chinese state media is not your random bs news website/newspaper. Everything included there has a purpose

alfreddango said:

wait, I thought dual citizenship is not allowed in china

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True.

alfreddango said:

is this a case of rules for thee but not for me?

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No, it is not such case.

In China's legal perspective, whatever the US government granted to her "US citizenship" is void and null. So she has ONLY Chinese citizenship and has nothing to relinquish.

Basically, the US gave something that was not asked for, why should that something be of any meaning to the person or China?

New Zealand to price sheep and cow burps to cut greenhouse gases​

The proposal would make New Zealand, a large agricultural exporter, the first country to have farmers pay for emissions from livestock, the Ministry for Environment said.

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I wonder if they are gonna tax people for breathing out Co2 in the future.

My thought of Gu Ailing promoting Salt Lake city.

People need to get rid of the idea of "either you are with me, or against me". We know who promoted that idea, we know how evil that idea is.

Gu Ailing is a Chinese citizen, BUT she is also born and grown up in the US. She call US home, she has her friends and neighbours there. Put ourselves in her place, can any of us say that we dislike our own friends who care and love us? Nobody can do that. When our friends ask us to do something good for the community, will any of us refuse? No. So she just did that for her neighbourhood, for her friends. A lot of us oversea Chinese have been living in foreign countries for a long time, we all have our good connections. Unless there is some legal hindrance, we should all be willing to do something good for our second home. Olympic isn't national confrontation.

I am surprised Moody only cut the forecast from 9.1% to 8.8%, even though it is from a very low base last fiscal year. Given the current global economic situation with energy and food (including fertilizer) scarcity, and pressure from the West not to buy from Russia, I would anticipate India would see a bigger pullback.

For comparison, in April, World Bank cut India's GDP forecast from 8.7% to 8%, follow by IMF cut 9% to 8.2%. And since then, energy cost and food shortage continued to skyrocket.

World Bank cuts India's GDP growth forecast to 8% from 8.7% in FY23

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After World Bank, IMF cuts India’s FY23 GDP forecast to 8.2%​

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In my previous post (above) in the now locked Indian Economic Thread, I expressed my doubt if the Indian GDP forecast reduction in April was still too high. Now World Bank, after cutting it from 8.7% to 8% in April, cut it further from 8% to 7.5%.

World Bank lowers India GDP forecast to 7.5% on rising inflation​

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The World Bank report further said that, for the global economies,

The World Bank report said there were certain similarities between the current situation and the stagflation witnessed in the 1970s.

These include a prolonged period of highly accommodative monetary policy in major advanced economies followed by persistent supply-side disturbances pushing inflation higher. However, certain differences exist too, including several central banks having explicit inflation targets.

This, according to the World Bank, is unlikely to prevent inflation from remaining above target in many economies.

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taxiya said:

My thought of Gu Ailing promoting Salt Lake city.

People need to get rid of the idea of "either you are with me, or against me". We know who promoted that idea, we know h evil that idea is.

Gu Ailing is a Chinese citizen, BUT she is also born and grown up in the US. She call US home, she has her friends and neighbours there. Put ourselves in her place, can any of us say that we dislike our own friends who care and love us? Nobody can do that. When our friends ask us to do something good for the community, will any of us refuse? No. So she just did that for her neighbourhood, for her friends. A lot of us oversea Chinese have been living in foreign countries for a long time, we all have our good connections. Unless there is some legal hindrance, we should all be willing to do something good for our second home. Olympic isn't national confrontation.

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I don’t get what you mean. She isn’t a Chinese citizen but her heritage is Chinese from the legal perspective.

Dont know why there is so many posts about her today.

US can't pick and choose what to cooperate and what not to cooperate.

solarz said:

Olympics doesn't care about citizenship, only nationality.

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I mean, sure, but am I wrong to assume that in order to be a chinese national you need to be a chinese citizen?

taxiya said:

True.

No, it is not such case.

In China's legal perspective, whatever the US government granted to her "US citizenship" is void and null. So she has ONLY Chinese citizenship and has nothing to relinquish.

Basically, the US gave something that was not asked for, why should that something be of any meaning to the person or China?

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I didn't know it worked like this. I always assumed that in such cases, if you ask chinese authorities to recognise you as a chinese citizen, they would ask you to relinquish the previous one, but as you explained that is not the case.
that's not how it works when you relinquish the chinese one though, right? in that case they enforce the rule iirc

taxiya said:

My thought of Gu Ailing promoting Salt Lake city.

People need to get rid of the idea of "either you are with me, or against me". We know who promoted that idea, we know how evil that idea is.

Gu Ailing is a Chinese citizen, BUT she is also born and grown up in the US. She call US home, she has her friends and neighbours there. Put ourselves in her place, can any of us say that we dislike our own friends who care and love us? Nobody can do that. When our friends ask us to do something good for the community, will any of us refuse? No. So she just did that for her neighbourhood, for her friends. A lot of us oversea Chinese have been living in foreign countries for a long time, we all have our good connections. Unless there is some legal hindrance, we should all be willing to do something good for our second home. Olympic isn't national confrontation.

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I'd just like to point out that I'm not trying to fan the flames of some weird jingoism here, I was just puzzled by the circumstances cause I didn't know the rules re: dual citizenship well enough