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ansy1968

Brigadier
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Yeah, just like the onerous Malampaya deal that Ansy 1968 referred to, where the Phillipines have to stump up all the costs for 12% of the revenue with Shell getting the rest.
@B.I.B. bro, lets wait for the proposed oil deal if sign and see the fine details, aside from the favorable share, China will shoulder the cost of the drilling. I think the Western MSM won't report it cause it will be a template for other third world nation to follow, 60/40 is unheard of, usually its 50/50 but if you include other perks like tax break, cost of drilling, import cost and others it will balloon to 80/20 in favor of Western partner with no liability regarding the environmental damage it cost to the locals, its economic impact and the clean up that is needed after exploiting the area. With the Malampaya case as an example we know that Western company will only participate if they able to achieve maximum profit for minimum investment. That is why the globalist hated the Chinese style State back enterprises. They are part of China foreign policy initiative arm, therefore profit while important is not the ultimate goal.

With the G7 plan of challenging BRI, it will only increase the corruption in the 3rd world cause they can't compete, the only way for those gov't to accept such onerous deal is to grease the palm of those politician. The Western media then can spin the story as a success burying the real story with endless China debt trap comparison.
 
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Strangelove

Colonel
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If you have been to any third world countries, in my case indonesia, you will see not many is willing to pay to use toll roads, most will prefer to use alternative roads bypassing said toll roads/bridges, thus defeating the purpose of building the roads and bridges in the first place

Not just in 3rd world places, but in developed world too. Case in point - there's a tunnel in Sydney that was to depend on toll payment for revenue... drivers simply took different routes, there are other examples.

Since then the bonds of this tunnel project is defaulting and have become pieces of hot horse manure that no one wants. The cancelling of OBOR projects in Victoria, Australia, is actually a huge blessing in disguise.
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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Queen Ursula (am sure I spelled her last name wrong but I don't give a s..t) of the ever useless E.U. she's also German.

She is the President of the EU Commission. It is the closest thing in Europe to the head of a Federal government. The EU Commission can regulate trade, they can enact tariffs, and they can fine companies if they violate trade law.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Not just in 3rd world places, but in developed world too. Case in point - there's a tunnel in Sydney that was to depend on toll payment for revenue... drivers simply took different routes, there are other examples.

Since then the bonds of this tunnel project is defaulting and have become pieces of hot horse manure that no one wants. The cancelling of OBOR projects in Victoria, Australia, is actually a huge blessing in disguise.
I guess there's wins and losses. In the end the public still pays whether it is through tolls or local tax increase. Aucklands Harbour bridge was a tolled project. It was so successful it was paid off faster than expected. On the other hand motorists in Auckland have been paying 11cents a litre more for their fuel to pay for a light rail to the airport for supposedly 10yrs. The project has now been put on hold indefinitely even possibly scrapped. but the tax is still in force or will the city's inhabitants get a refund? I don't think so as the council will spend it on something else.
 

Strangelove

Colonel
Registered Member
Toll roads have become a way of providing roading when the state don't want to pay so I cant see why one cant have toll bridges as well.

In far off NZ where there are no better investment, maybe investors don't mind waiting at least a decade to break even assuming they're the original investors and didn't purchase the rights, nor are there state guarantees.
 

Strangelove

Colonel
Registered Member
I guess there's wins and losses. In the end the public still pays whether it is through tolls or local tax increase. Aucklands Harbour bridge was a tolled project. It was so successful it was paid off faster than expected. On the other hand motorists in Auckland have been paying 11cents a litre more for their fuel to pay for a light rail to the airport for supposedly 10yrs. The project has now been put on hold indefinitely even possibly scrapped. but the tax is still in force or will the city's inhabitants get a refund? I don't think so as the council will spend it on something else.
And it helps if there are some gov guarantees and white knights when the porject is at least 1/2 way through.

Starting from zero is a huge risk.
 

emblem21

Major
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@Bellum_Romanum and being embarrassed by Edrogan with the famous SNUB...lol
To be fair, Edrogan is not a terrible good person but you have to admit, Turkey has been receiving the shaft from Europe for such a long time that really, Europe was asking for it and also given that Europe right now isn’t really being all that nice to Turkey in general, Turkey has the ultimate weapon to use against Europe, having countless refugees that want to go to Europe and they are in Turkey right now and the only reason Turkey didn’t use this card is because Europe is paying them not to release the flood gates. But really, sooner or later, things will change. In a sense, if the EU loses its lustre, nothing will stop Turkey from letting the refugees through and basically cause an even greater migrant crisis then the last one
 
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