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windsclouds2030

windsclouds2030

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4Runner said:
Yeah. Those dummies definitely don't know that majority of Chinese in China are already tired of paying for these lavish parties. It is the arrogance that irritates the hell out of all Chinese. I say let's get rid O games once for all. I am actually interested in seeing how many western countries still have the money and the management skills to host these O games.
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If the Olympic extravaganza still continues over many decades to come... I wish China won't waste resources to host the games, summer moreover winter one, for the next 50 years. Let other cities hold the hot balls, I don't believe it's a beneficial event for the host country. Enough twice, better spend the money whereas it gives more benefits!

Actual strength lies in the real development. Better infrastructure. Higher science and technology level. Better R & D. Better education, better research university and university in general. Higher quality of life. More robust structure of economy. Stronger military. Better and broader reaching out healthcare. Less of the superficial prides like hosting the Olympic things, and the kind! Of course if they are actually profitable, then they're completely different proposition, just positive business venture. But I read most host cities are suffering financial burden in hosting the OG.
 
escobar

escobar

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There's no excuse for the atrocious track record of Chinese diplomacy and its media against these lies. One can simply compare 3-5 minute videos by the likes of Max Blumenthal and Ajit Singh of The Greyzone. They have next to no funding, no team, etc. Why are they so effective? They get to the point and they expose the hypocrisy, fake ngo Trojan Horses, fake news/propaganda, destroy the perceived credibility of Western "news", crimes and standard operating procedure of the Western imperialists.

Now, compare that to Chinese media like CGTN. It is long winded pointless rambling for close to 30 minutes. When I finish watching their shows, I feel like I wasted time. I learn next to nothing and most importantly, I don't even get the sense that the West is using terrorism or spreading lies against China. Chinese media/communication are awful.

I'll give specific examples of how utterly useless Chinese media is

Example 1
The Greyzone refers to Adrian Zenz as a right Christian homophobic fanatic.
Chinese media refers to Adrian Zenz as a researcher.
The Chinese have a chance to instantly annihilate his credibility but they act like his PR agent instead.

Example 2
The Greyzone refers to Western propaganda as propaganda, lies or, disinformation.
Chinese media refers to Western propaganda as misunderstandings or incorrect information.
Once again, Chinese media act like the PR agency for Western terrorists by using euphemisms to downplay Western criminality.

Example 3
The Greyzone refers to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) as the CIA's arm to overthrow democracies.
The Chinese media refers to National Endowment for Democracy (NED) as an ngo.
I hope I don't need to repeat myself here.

Keep in mind, some people will write excuses about how it's about funding, global reach, etc. It's nonsense. CGTN has millions of followers/subscribers. That's enough. They have a giant budget. They should have an army of researchers and programmers who can organize its content.

I have only scratched the surface. If China wants to survive and defeat Western imperialists then these excuses need to stop. Secondly, they should learn how to perform the most basic media functions instead of acting like a pr agency for their enemies.
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Incompetence & laziness. CN want US acceptation and learn nothing from history
 
Jiang ZeminFanboy

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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name said:
There's no excuse for the atrocious track record of Chinese diplomacy and its media against these lies. One can simply compare 3-5 minute videos by the likes of Max Blumenthal and Ajit Singh of The Greyzone. They have next to no funding, no team, etc. Why are they so effective? They get to the point and they expose the hypocrisy, fake ngo Trojan Horses, fake news/propaganda, destroy the perceived credibility of Western "news", crimes and standard operating procedure of the Western imperialists.

Now, compare that to Chinese media like CGTN. It is long winded pointless rambling for close to 30 minutes. When I finish watching their shows, I feel like I wasted time. I learn next to nothing and most importantly, I don't even get the sense that the West is using terrorism or spreading lies against China. Chinese media/communication are awful.

I'll give specific examples of how utterly useless Chinese media is

Example 1
The Greyzone refers to Adrian Zenz as a right Christian homophobic fanatic.
Chinese media refers to Adrian Zenz as a researcher.
The Chinese have a chance to instantly annihilate his credibility but they act like his PR agent instead.

Example 2
The Greyzone refers to Western propaganda as propaganda, lies or, disinformation.
Chinese media refers to Western propaganda as misunderstandings or incorrect information.
Once again, Chinese media act like the PR agency for Western terrorists by using euphemisms to downplay Western criminality.

Example 3
The Greyzone refers to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) as the CIA's arm to overthrow democracies.
The Chinese media refers to National Endowment for Democracy (NED) as an ngo.
I hope I don't need to repeat myself here.

Keep in mind, some people will write excuses about how it's about funding, global reach, etc. It's nonsense. CGTN has millions of followers/subscribers. That's enough. They have a giant budget. They should have an army of researchers and programmers who can organize its content.

I have only scratched the surface. If China wants to survive and defeat Western imperialists then these excuses need to stop. Secondly, they should learn how to perform the most basic media functions instead of acting like a pr agency for their enemies.
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Unfortunately, that's how it is.

I've been trying at forums to change the views about Xinjiang, but exposure to lies about Xinjiang is so big that's it's now almost pointless. "Genocide" and "concentration camps" are being taken for granted. Chinese media were silent for I believe 1-2 years, now they would have to go to every center that ASPI google maps lists at their sites and take videos, but probably it would still be taken as fake news.
 
Bellum_Romanum

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ansy1968 said:
@Bellum_Romanum @Gatekeeper need your opinion on UK, she is being marginalized by the EU because of Brexit and the US seems to back EU instead. If Scotland do secede will it fasten the demise of the 5 eyes and weaken the west further? The way I see things the West intend to punished it owns member if they deviate from the Atlanticist Neo Liberal policy, with fragile EU structure being destroy by unelected EU bureaucrats there is a ground swell of Nationalism among member state and This pandemic is making things worse as EU implement covid lockdown and restriction.
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I am no expert on the E.U. politics or with the British political scene. But based on a few readings of the situation from the usual western sources of publications (The Atlantic, BBC, The Diplomat, Foreign Policy, Foreign Affairs etc.) The E.U. is apparently hellbent on making it rather difficult and challenging for Britiain going forward as the polity wants to make an example of it's erstwhile member to ensure that other E.U. member state would not dare or even contemplate on leaving the Union.

As for the Britain, it's really up to the current political party in charge which is the conservative party led by Boris Johnson to actually come up with sensible economic plans, trade deals to ensure the country's economic viability and prosperity for it's own internal stability and cohesion among it's non-English citizens (Scotlan, Northern Ireland, Wales) penchant for separation or separatists tendencies. The covid-19 pandemic and the economic fallout it wrought to countries and in particular in Great Britain is actually opening up old wounds and issues (Scotland independence movement, Northern Ireland terrorism) for economic, and political reasons. If Britian fails to deliver in a meaningful way on these important factors then all bets are off. Nationalism and strong sense of national identity coupled with economic stagnation are factors that no singing of God save the Queen can actually save or stop.
 
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ansy1968 said:
@Bellum_Romanum @Gatekeeper need your opinion on UK, she is being marginalized by the EU because of Brexit and the US seems to back EU instead. If Scotland do secede will it fasten the demise of the 5 eyes and weaken the west further? The way I see things the West intend to punished it owns member if they deviate from the Atlanticist Neo Liberal policy, with fragile EU structure being destroy by unelected EU bureaucrats there is a ground swell of Nationalism among member state and This pandemic is making things worse as EU implement covid lockdown and restriction.
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Britain historicaly served as a US vassal in the EU to stop the EU from trying to go away from the US.

I think Brexit was not a giant conspiracy from the US, it was mostly from the UK oligarchs who were afraid of the new EU tax and disclosure rules.

However, the US didn't lose much from Brexit. The one vassal left, and now there is Poland and the Eastern EU countries to be the new US vassals to replace Britain. So, the US always wins..
 
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