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FairAndUnbiased said:

They couldn't do it to even Serbia though, and Serbia was tiny. Iran's army is entirely intact right now.

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What is Serbia's power today? What threat does Serbia pose to the stability of Europe under US control? They managed to neutralize the old Yugoslavia many years ago.

Without external intervention from Russia or China, Iran will soon become just a footnote as well. But Netanyahu will probably still allow Iran to exist as a pretext to kill Muslims, like a large version of Gaza or Syria and Lebanon.

quim said:

For Israel, leaving Iran dysfunctional is much better than simply installing a puppet government, because for Netanyahu's group it's good to have a punching bag that provides useful narratives for the Zionists. Jihadists incapable of forming a stable government without permission will never have an atomic bomb.lol And regarding Russia and China, the Americans are showing that they will demand submission or neutrality from the countries of the world when they confront China. They are showing that they will intervene and kill any weak rival leader who does not accept their terms. It's just a geopolitical encirclement to try to isolate the enemy.

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Would you stop it?

You're elevating abject stupidity as strategy.

No. There is no strategy. It is just stupidity.

Here is a very recent example, which I forgot about, but just watched a video with ex-CIA guy Larry Johnson and now I remember.

If we have noticed, several articles in the controlled US media that oil to China is being choked off due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

Listening to Larry Johnson, we know how fake that all is, for China at least.

The situation, or facts, is that something like 80% of Iranian oil goes to China, but the Strait of Hormuz is closed, by Iran.

So what can China do? They can buy more oil from the Saudis. The Iranians did not attack oil facilities, someone else did in a false flag attempt. This is true, because remember that there is a pipeline in Saudi Arabia from one side of it, near the Persian Gulf, running across the country to the other side of it to the Red Sea. Remember that pipeline?

Since the Strait of Hormuz is closed, Saudi oil cannot be shipped that way, so they can ship it through the Red Sea.

That is the absolutely the funniest thing. The path to the Red Sea is closed by the Houthis, except they allow Chinese cargo to pass through.

Haha! Haha! Haha! Haha!

So when the Chinese complain to the Iranians, hey we want our oil that we will pay you for! The Iranians will make this suggestion, and you know the Chinese will accept. The Chinese will pay more, but the Iranians are paying with blood, and the Saudis cannot get anything out, period.

So it is obvious. Everyone is losing something in this Iran War, but China loses the least. Just another business expensive.

Then we get the privilege to hear the Americans say how much China is losing, when they dare not mention American based wiped out obliterated all across the Middle East!

That sure sounds like winning!

Haha! Haha! Haha! Haha!

If Israel is the father and India is the mother, I guess the US is the daddy?

The thing is, the US is drunk on its recent military victories, which has given it a false sense of security. Syria and Venezuela were both near perfect victories (tactically speaking), which helped restore the perception that the US military and intelligence agency are invincible, and can decapitate any regime. Having found an effective hammer, everything starts looking like a nail. They figured they've finally found the solution to China - exploit the fact that China has limited means of projecting power, and make the rest of the world into American puppets. If the US alone can't defeat China, the US with a hundred vassals, surely can.

But such is the nature of hubris that it's all according to plan, until it's not. The US thought it could pull a Syria in Iran, but what it got was a lot closer to an Ukraine. Sure, the US can and probably will still "win" (since Trump can just change the definition), but its victory will come at significant cost, and this will be a major set back of the new US strategy for hegemony.

quim said:

What is Serbia's power today? What threat does Serbia pose to the stability of Europe under US control? They managed to neutralize the old Yugoslavia many years ago.

Without external intervention from Russia or China, Iran will soon become just a footnote as well. But Netanyahu will probably still allow Iran to exist as a pretext to kill Muslims, like a large version of Gaza or Syria and Lebanon.

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Here's what the US could inflict in terms of damage in 3 months of bombing:


13 tanks destroyed, 6 APCs destroyed, 6 artillery pieces destroyed. Iran has thousands of tanks, APCs and artillery pieces. That was on a tiny piece of land (20x smaller than Iran), surrounded by NATO, without time pressure.

The problem is not Serbia. There's this thing called an 'analogy'. It is not a direct 1:1 situation, but there are similarities. The similarity here is the proven difficulty of targeting ground forces when you can't bring in low flying loitering aircraft because air defenses are still active. Serbia did cede control of high altitude air due to presence of fixed wing SEAD, but short ranged and low altitude air defense was still active, so if you bring in a helicopter, MALE drone or A-10 for tank, TEL or artillery hunting, it gets splashed instantly by MANPADs and short ranged SAMs.

Now here's the time pressure: unlike Serbia, Iran sits on the Straits of Hormuz. You do the math.

quim said:

For Israel, leaving Iran dysfunctional is much better than simply installing a puppet government, because for Netanyahu's group it's good to have a punching bag that provides useful narratives for the Zionists.

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That's just stupid. For you, whatever is likely for the US is somehow magically much better. A puppet government is a subservient; a dysfunctional enemy is still an enemy, one that is much much larger than Israel and still dangerous.

quim said:

Jihadists incapable of forming a stable government without permission will never have an atomic bomb.lol

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A puppet government obeys commands while a Jihadist Iran will endlessly use guerilla warfare against Israel. And to say that Iran won't be able to form a stable government is very premature. Before killing Khomanei, there was no will to do it. Now there is.

quim said:

And regarding Russia and China, the Americans are showing that they will demand submission or neutrality from the countries of the world when they confront China. They are showing that they will intervene and kill any weak rival leader who does not accept their terms. It's just a geopolitical encirclement to try to isolate the enemy.

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Unfortunately for them, 1. Russia is the country that matters the most and it is the second country after China that the US cannot bow. 2. the US fights this way because they think that China is like the US, a country reliant on slaves and subservience. China is no such country. China's power comes from within; that is why the vast majority of the world's first world nations bend to Washington's will but that did nothing to stop China's rise. America is barking up the wrong tree.

quim said:

What is Serbia's power today? What threat does Serbia pose to the stability of Europe under US control? They managed to neutralize the old Yugoslavia many years ago.

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None of these countries ever posed a threat to the US before, nor do they benefit the US today.

quim said:

Without external intervention from Russia or China, Iran will soon become just a footnote as well. But Netanyahu will probably still allow Iran to exist as a pretext to kill Muslims, like a large version of Gaza or Syria and Lebanon.

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It's not up to Netanyahu; Iran is principally too powerful for Israel to handle. If they tried to occupy it, they will be swallowed into it. China and Russia provide covert support, but the most important thing is Iranian size and depth making it too much for the US to get a cheap victory (as they are well aware that they cannot afford to use any more of their strength with China powering up in the backdrop) and too much for little Israel to handle at all.

sheogorath said:

If Israel is the father and India is the mother, I guess the US is the daddy?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029721439780368824

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US is the brat manipulated by the abusive father to help with dirty family business while mother openly gets her kicks wherever she can.

heres my theory: Trump is emotional and possibly unstable at this time, US 5th fleet HQ was wiped out and they’re taking casualties that they’re not telling the American ppl. He may decide to launch nukes at everyone.
Perhaps China pulling back on patrols is a sign of good faith during tense negotiations in the lead up to a potential Trump and Xi meeting in 3 weeks time.

Additionally, the PLAN doesn’t need to be so close to Taiwan to commence air superiority, judging by the current Iranian war, they could launch from Chinese airspace if they so wished.

TACO of the century is coming, at least if Iran trusts this guy again

Chevalier said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029860674067673204

heres my theory: Trump is emotional and possibly unstable at this time, US 5th fleet HQ was wiped out and they’re taking casualties that they’re not telling the American ppl. He may decide to launch nukes at everyone.
Perhaps China pulling back on patrols is a sign of good faith during tense negotiations in the lead up to a potential Trump and Xi meeting in 3 weeks time.

Additionally, the PLAN doesn’t need to be so close to Taiwan to commence air superiority, judging by the current Iranian war, they could launch from Chinese airspace if they so wished.

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China will make a move anyway, as US ammunition inventory is dwindling in Iran and Ukraine. South Korea and Japan dare not waste their fuel on Taiwan.