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Randomuser

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I read that Eastern European countries resented that China is still communist after the wall fell and "getting more" from the West than they are even after dumping communism. Well isn't that the West's fault if they believe that's what is happening?
For those who been to china lately you will see loads of Walmart's, KFCs etc there.

That got me thinking about countries like India that seethe the west invested in China over India. If only they opened up earlier then the west would invest in them like China.

That's not how it works. Why would KFC and other consumer goods companies invest the same amount in a country that doesn't eat meat? Why would sports companies like Nike want to invest a large qmount in a place that cares even less about playing sports than China? Like just by design there's way less market potential alone for the CEOs to see. I havent even mentioned the actual spending power.

For all the whining about communism or whatever, when it comes to products, western companies couldn't find a better place than China. There aren't many limits provided it isn't political. So instead of blaming how companies china bow to China, maybe you should think how to make it more attractive for them to care about you?
 
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Chevalier

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I read that Eastern European countries resented that China is still communist after the wall fell and "getting more" from the West than they are even after dumping communism. Well isn't that the West's fault if they believe that's what is happening?
The one who got these most was Poland because it was presented as the poster child for post Soviet bloc countries as Jeffrey Sach confirmed. To their credit, Poles have not gone full Lithuania.
If you read the article carefully, they are not even remorseful, or regretful of their initial actions for throwing China under the bus in the first place. What they are upset about, however, was that they admitted that they were hoping of getting some kind of "return on goods" from their daddy Trump and EU mommy by jumping in front of the train. Now they are resenting the fact that the EU member countries like Germany, the UK, and even Canada, even with the whole debacle over Meng Wanzhou, are somehow able to maintain business relations with China, despite their previous anti-China rhetoric, while little Lithuania got the cold shoulder. The whole article reads like a high school girl's drama queen memoir.
our of all of the west, one of them has to serve as an example and Lithuania being puny, small and pathetic serves as the chicken to be killed to keep the monkeys in line.

Most don’t know. Look at the Estonian EU commissioner. She doesn’t even know the role of China in World War 2. When it comes to world history, Europeans are ignorant.
The garden has very high walls indeed, provincial walls.


russia is probably the only nation that formally acknowledges these allegations and points the finger at “the vampire’s ball” of the west.
 

Chevalier

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I was kinda hoping that Trump could aim for a 3rd term in office, so that he can do more MAGA+TACO for China.
It really doesn't matter if it's Trump or whoever succeeds him, Vance, Rubio or Thiel. People are uneasy about having cannibal child rapists for leaders and at this rate everyone in the Beltway or the Atlantic Elite is suspect.




No wonder the framing of the ukraine war in Russia, is framed as a crusade against forces of darkness and satanism.
 

Lethe

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George F. Kennan's general misanthropy occasionally finds an unusually specific and apposite expression, as in the following diary entry dated March 21, 1977:

The years 2000 to 2050 should witness, in fact, the end of the great Western civilization. The Chinese, more prudent and less spoiled, no less given to over-population but prepared to be more ruthless in the control of its effects, may inherit the ruins.

A more substantive (but less entertaining) entry from July 25, 1950:

[British Ambassador Oliver Franks] made it evident that their great objection to our China policy lay in our commitment to Chiang Kai-shek, which they viewed as something forcing the Chinese Communists into the hands of the Russians. I pointed out to him that Formosa could not be regarded only as a part of the Chinese problem but must be regarded as part of the whole Far Eastern picture, and that whoever said Formosa must go to the communists to facilitate the emergence of an independent Chinese Communist policy vis-a-vis Moscow was really saying that all of the Far East and the Western Pacific, including possibly Japan, must be abandoned to communism, if necessary, for this same purpose....

Franks said that the British people took a longer view of these things: that their calculations were fixed rather on what the situation would be in the year 2000, and that in the stolid advance toward such long-term objectives they were prepared to take in their stride whatever trials or reverses might come. He thought that in the long run China was more important than Japan and ought to be given priority in our thinking.

This, I said, terrified me; because China was an entity which would never, in my opinion, be dependable from the standpoint of western interests; Japan, on the other hand, might conceivably be made so....
 

Ringsword

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Then, what must be done, must be done. For only then, they will realize the folly of their choice and in their choice they must be held to account.
I wonder how these Japanese "youths" will react to a national conscription to fight an enraged China?BTW Misawa JASDF base will now host F35's in numbers to be a linchpin in the island chain strategy to choke China without the need apparently for USAF aerial tankers,AWAC's-thank you PL15/PL17!!- and other support aircraft and USA is looking for another country like Phillipines to be the second anchorpoint in this island chain USAF basing.
 
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