Japan's government has been in a coma since the early 90s. It only woke up briefly to approve nuke plants in tsunami zones and run up the highest debt ratio in the world to subsidize pensioners. I can't say I blame them for distrusting it.
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Yeah, I tend to share the same sentiment. Also, I got a different perspective, maybe I am full of it, then again maybe not.
From memory, every time some place nationalized assets kicking the Americans out, the Americans took the loss. Sometimes the Americans would come back, coups or attacks, but that rarely works for them in the long run.
That the Americans are playing this game and not some two-bit tinpot, shows that the Americans have nothing left to confront China.
China is now the rich man. This only happens to rich people. China is the largest creditor. It happened too fast, even the Chinese could not adjust to the realities on the ground fast enough, the same realities that they help to create.
I think China should set up military bases around the world, or supply the equipment.
Right now, the Americans want to dismember random countries at will. Countries need protection now. Either you join the Board of Peace paying the protection money, or be a tough guy or woman and get some real good weapons and in very large quantities.
If the Houthis can manage, then nation states with a proper military should be able to do so as well.
Honestly, I never thought I would live to see this. LOL. That goes for everyone here! Haha!
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Hello brother and happy Chinese new year, from my perspective the seizure of both port are for me an irritant not existential cause 1) it's owned by a private HKG company and 2) NOT PART OF BRI, for symbolism and pettiness the American really want it to score a win after taking a humiliation loss from the Chinese. Its a telegraphic move by the Panama, the US and China knowing that they haven't cross the Chinese redline. Now it will be different if Greece nationalize the Piraeus port, that port was owned by a COSCO and part of BRI. We know that there are a lot of pressure emanating from the US, EU and NATO for Greece to take action and they refuse knowing the repercussion will be devastating.Yeah, I tend to share the same sentiment. Also, I got a different perspective, maybe I am full of it, then again maybe not.
From memory, every time some place nationalized assets kicking the Americans out, the Americans took the loss. Sometimes the Americans would come back, coups or attacks, but that rarely works for them in the long run.
That the Americans are playing this game and not some two-bit tinpot, shows that the Americans have nothing left to confront China.
I think China should set up military bases around the world, or supply the equipment.
Right now, the Americans want to dismember random countries at will. Countries need protection now. Either you join the Board of Peace paying the protection money, or be a tough guy or woman and get some real good weapons and in very large quantities.
Honestly, I never thought I would live to see this. LOL. That goes for everyone here! Haha!
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Yeah, I tend to share the same sentiment. Also, I got a different perspective, maybe I am full of it, then again maybe not.
From memory, every time some place nationalized assets kicking the Americans out, the Americans took the loss. Sometimes the Americans would come back, coups or attacks, but that rarely works for them in the long run.
That the Americans are playing this game and not some two-bit tinpot, shows that the Americans have nothing left to confront China.
China is now the rich man. This only happens to rich people. China is the largest creditor. It happened too fast, even the Chinese could not adjust to the realities on the ground fast enough, the same realities that they help to create.
I think China should set up military bases around the world, or supply the equipment.
Right now, the Americans want to dismember random countries at will. Countries need protection now. Either you join the Board of Peace paying the protection money, or be a tough guy or woman and get some real good weapons and in very large quantities.
If the Houthis can manage, then nation states with a proper military should be able to do so as well.
Honestly, I never thought I would live to see this. LOL. That goes for everyone here! Haha!
A couple of DF missiles on Panama canal will remind them who is in charge.
Su
if it serves China interest and when the time is right but Panama is a set back that can easily be undone the moment that USA is out of the way. As long as China plays its hands right, China can collapse theUS hegemony without firing a shot, it all depends on how mad Trump gets and ultimately if the USA as a nation remain completely cuckholded to the point where the USA doesn’t react to Trump when in his madness decides to blow up Washington DC for whatever reason. I mean that is unlikely but if Trump gets desperate enough with all the TACOS he is stuffing himself with, he will be guaranteed to self own himself while taking everyone out in his vicinity. Still I am completely surprised after all this time that nobody even tried to rein him in properly, it’s like everyone around him became a bitch pussy or something. After a year of craziness, not a single policy has been made to help elevate the current crisis’s in the nation, I mean is he that retarded and up with himself that he cannot see the obvious or is he in that much denial that most of the problems in they nation for the past year is literally his fault in the first place.
He has an AoE that makes everyone in a 20m radius around him a bitch ass pussy.
He's also stinky, like literally.
Truly a reflection of the state of the USA.
broadsword
Brigadier
What China needs is a black ops style mercenary Wagner group to basically do the non official cover (NOC) wetwork that requires doing with plausible deniability for the Chinese. Steal a port from China? Guess what, you now have rebel groups popping up and bearing down on that same port and causing civil unrest and chaos in your nation. Steal a company? your minister now has a dead horse's head in his bed. Whether China wants it or not, it is now a hegemon and will be required to crack a few heads because quite frankly, you cant depend on ppl being rational. Personally i would hope that Russia acts as that bagman so china can be the good cop but that may well take some time.Yeah, I tend to share the same sentiment. Also, I got a different perspective, maybe I am full of it, then again maybe not.
From memory, every time some place nationalized assets kicking the Americans out, the Americans took the loss. Sometimes the Americans would come back, coups or attacks, but that rarely works for them in the long run.
That the Americans are playing this game and not some two-bit tinpot, shows that the Americans have nothing left to confront China.
China is now the rich man. This only happens to rich people. China is the largest creditor. It happened too fast, even the Chinese could not adjust to the realities on the ground fast enough, the same realities that they help to create.
I think China should set up military bases around the world, or supply the equipment.
Right now, the Americans want to dismember random countries at will. Countries need protection now. Either you join the Board of Peace paying the protection money, or be a tough guy or woman and get some real good weapons and in very large quantities.
If the Houthis can manage, then nation states with a proper military should be able to do so as well.
Honestly, I never thought I would live to see this. LOL. That goes for everyone here! Haha!
Personal anecdote, i used to work with this person who would fly off at the handle at the drop of a hat and wouldnt understand nuances, and similarly we have countries and peoples like the filipinos and anglo australians who lack self awareness and think they can cause chaos and war in China's neighbourhood and steal Chinese assets.
THe chickens are coming home to roost:
Holy cow, looks like World Teacher India's Modi was a dancing monkey for the West,
look at that. A monkey in a human dress that thinks she is human and hisses at other monkeys
Lethe
Captain
I think White's comments about cultural adaptation contain both descriptive and prescriptive elements, i.e. what he thinks is happening and predicts to happen, but also what he thinks should happen. I'd like to think that he's right, that our European attachments will gradually be attenuated to form merely part of a more complex national identity that is more capable of, amongst other things, regarding the rise of non-Anglo powers with greater equanimity and less visceral alarm, i.e. to treat the rise of China more like most of our regional neighbours appear to do. I'd like to think that's what will happen across the decades and generations to come. But I'm also reminded that great changes bring about great resistance that can manifest in spectacular and perhaps even disastrous forms. To take a relatively benign example, Hugo Young wrote the following in 1998:
"This is the story of fifty years in which Britain struggled to reconcile the past she could not forget with the future she could not avoid. A story of an attitude to history itself and to a question: could Britain accept that her modern destiny was to be a European country?"
In 2016, the vote came in.
White certainly takes the prospect of war over Taiwan very seriously. He believes that conflict between the United States and China over Taiwan is entirely plausible, and that it could well escalate to the nuclear dimension. He believes that any such conflict would destroy America's strategic position in Asia, either because Washington ultimately chooses not to fight, or because they do fight -- and lose. This leads to his prescriptions for Australia, which are (1) that we should stay out any such conflict and (2) that we should attempt to persuade Washington to adopt a more sustainable posture that reduces the chance of catastrophic conflict, including by clarifying to Washington in advance that we will not join them in war over Taiwan.
I think it's fair to say that White views the Taiwan issue in large part as the lynchpin of a broader strategic contest between the USA and China. It may be that he doesn't grasp the full range of history and sentiment behind the Taiwan issue, specifically. But nor is he entirely ignorant on the subject. Those who believe that Australia should join the United States in a conflict over Taiwan often assert the latter as the first domino in an eventual Chinese conquest of the Pacific, i.e. Imperial Japan 2.0. White rejects this argument, noting that Taiwan is a unique case grounded in specific historical circumstances, such that the threatened or actual annexation of Taiwan does not presage further territorial ambitions over e.g. Australia. Note that above is merely my own understanding of White's positions and should not be taken as definitive.
On the substance of the comments that you quoted, Beijing may well be prepared to go to war over Taiwan, but they would almost certainly prefer to achieve a satisfactory resolution to that issue through means short of war, because war entails serious costs and risks. The prospects for achieving this inherently depend upon understanding how other parties are likely to react in particular circumstances, which in turn depends upon how those other parties perceive the balance of power, the interests they have at stake, and the likely consequences of certain courses of action. This interplay of signals and perceptions, and potential miscalculations, is where White's analogy becomes relevant. To take a more contemporary example, Russia was evidently prepared to go to war over the strategic dispensation of Ukraine. Russia also clearly preferred to achieve its objectives in Ukraine through means short of war; ultimately, the war that Russia has found itself in clearly differs considerably from that which Moscow originally envisioned. Conversely, it's clear that many European nations misjudged both the depth of Russia's commitment to preventing Ukraine from acceding to NATO or otherwise emerging as a strategic threat, and also Russia's willingness and capacity to pursue that objective even at great cost.
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