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jiajia99

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Overbom said:
For sure more theft is on the way. If it happens once, it can happen again, and again, and again. It will only stop when serious consequences hit them
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Feels like extreme desperation on the part of the USA given how they are too scared to face China in a direct fight, they resort to kicking around in its back yard. Somehow given the speed of these actions, the time when the USA will slip up
Will be soon and then we will see if these actions in Americas backyard will end up back firing or not since none of these actions can fix the main issue plaguing the USA right, especially in regards to the economy and more importantly the dollar, should the dollar collapse, well the USAs actions around its periphery ends up being pointless
 
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This is going to be a trend everywhere.

China may not have been especially dependant on Venezuela, but Venezuela itself wasn't the point either.
The point was that US now holds absolute dominion over decisions by all states of western hemisphere (Canada pretends it isn't Latino and it doesn't apply to them, but explanation...won't take too long).
Panama, Mexico, Columbia ... like, even in Brazil(!) question of nukes got raised up again; as things stand now, they have no way to physically resist US coercion(they for obvious reasons aren't exactly happy on Donroe).

Frankly speaking, this will be a major test of popular Chinese "do nothing - win" meme. B/c even if ~3% of oil supply(Venezuela) were negligible - half a trillion of trade with Latin America (including major metal dependancies) isn't negligible at all.

I am not a hardcore enough SW fan, but if i remember correctly, Empire was more of a confederacy in all but name, as individual planets had powerful local forces, and could easily muster forces to resist imperial forces; Empire had only one bet to become a proper nation(death star), and it went poof.
In comparison, US states...do of course have their national guards, sometimes quite numerous. but those are semi-fake by design; you can't take them out of US force and resist central government, not without many years of work.
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Some of you guys still don't get it. You still believe these strong arm moves by the US is going to hurt China in the long run when the reality of the situation is that the US is trying hard to save its hegemony. Back in the day, there was another super power called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics that created a wall (literally and physically) around its vassals, the result was nothing but misery. The lesson here is that you can only restrain folks for so long while offering little before they forcefully decide to break free. America is going to expend resources exerting authority in its region for little gain other than illusions of grandeur.

Let me ask you folks a question; if the US decides to force these Latam countries to cut trade with China, who will substitute the goods the largest manufacturing power exports to them? The US? If China decides to waste resources playing these empire games it will sink into the same hole the US is currently sinking into. Look at the Latin American Trump adjacent Javier Milei with all his anti-China rhetoric during his campaign, he got into office and reality slapped him in the face only to realize he had no choice but to deal with China.
 
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jiajia99 said:
Feels like extreme desperation on the part of the USA given how they are too scared to face China in a direct fight, they resort to kicking around in its back yard. Somehow given the speed of these actions, the time when the USA will slip up
Will be soon and then we will see if these actions in Americas backyard will end up back firing or not since none of these actions can fix the main issue plaguing the USA right, especially in regards to the economy and more importantly the dollar, should the dollar collapse, well the USAs actions around its periphery ends up being pointless
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There is a nonzero chance of dollar collapsing within the year. Maybe that’s why Trump has gone full retard lately. But by doing so he is just accelerating the inevitable…
 
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The Supreme Court of Panama ruled that the two port operation contracts awarded to Cheung Kong Group are unconstitutional. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that China will take all necessary measures to resolutely safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese enterprises.
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Did the Panamanian government directly tear up the contract? This is a very serious matter.
 
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Did the Panamanian government directly tear up the contract? This is a very serious matter.
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Whatever punishment China doles out cant match the severity of regime change, unfortunately. The Maduro fiasco is paying dividends.

I think it is only a matter of time before the Canucks fold too.
 
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Whatever punishment China doles out cant match the severity of regime change, unfortunately. The Maduro fiasco is paying dividends.

I think it is only a matter of time before the Canucks fold too.
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I believe it's time for China to consider military alliances and overseas troop deployments. Relying solely on trade is not a sustainable long-term strategy.
 
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