States already tried to leave US in the past.
US isn't held together by words.
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US isn't held together by words.
Deflation because the cost of goods are dropping, a lot of it is from increase in productivity. Just brought a water heater after 10 years, it is only about 50% of the price back 10 years. Cars, electronics, and a lot of fruits, nuts, hairy crabs, different fishes, prices are also lower, because increase in productivity.
The so called estate crisis, the drop in price of property, is the means to balance the haves and have-nots, to reduce inequality.
Job markets bad, because too many college graduates with "文科“ degree which are not needed. You can check the number of college students increase, and the percentage of "文科” students. And there is the trade war and tariff war, everyone is involved, of course the market is not good, everywhere is the same.
People are not saving money, just everything is cheaper, money is worth more, unlike the US, from my experience there is about 50-100% inflation from 2020 to now.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Well, more than words might wanna leave at this point... and at worsening points than this. I know, very very remote, but if Trump can just get that amendment to be president for life, there's gonna be hope.
Talking about GDP with out looking at how GDP is calculated is stupid.
US count a lot of stuff in GDP, China does not count a lot of stuff in GDP.
So maybe, the number is for when using the same calculation for both China and the US.
It's not even paranoia to be alarmed by the situation since no other country has fixed its demographic problem. And the urgency required to reverse it is clearly not visible.
You need mass as well, doesn't matter how developed you are, you need scale and development.
A country's sole purpose is not just to become a superpower, that is something only applicable to large countries in the first place. For most countries it is also to serve their citizens as best as possible.
Why can't you even imagine a China will 4 times the nominal GDP of US?
Look up any country that became developed from developing in terms of nominal GDP, you will find the trend. Just by your refuting it doesn't make the logic disappear.
Look up any country that became developed from developing in terms of nominal GDP, you will find the trend. Just by your refuting it doesn't make the logic disappear.
If it is, then all the more reason to launch a stimulus aimed at tech and getting the economy and domestic demand in better shape.
The domestic demand issue is so severe, that even the president himself is on record criticising the lack of demand.
But then how is it that an even larger fish (US) is growing faster? US has higher growth rates (nominal) despite growing from much larger base.
You have been excusing the need for a higher rate of growth. You should answer it.
Trade is a significant chunk, and nominal GDP does matter to even tech growth because a higher nominal salary helps attract and retain talent, especially high tech talent which is globally mobile like a tradeable commodity. Nominal GDP also matters to companies whose revenue and investment is in nominal figures. Please use any AI including chinese ones to understand why deflation coupled with low nominal growth is so harmful. It is an economist consensus.
You are clearly making that up. I will post data later that actually tells how many Chinese PhDs stay in US, and the trend.
Nope, you are even misrepresenting what I did get right, which was the name of the lithography company in Japan. Not what lithography itself is or the like. That you are stuck to one incident of me remembering the name wrong shows how hollow this effort is, to seize my mistakes.
How is having dominant market share of these products related to fake paper money?
Dude, US is literally positioned on China's doorsteps. Please have some humility and don't talk nonsense. US has, literally prevented, China's reunification.
A lot of people care about nominal. You might not be the one, that's ookay. Most countries have no control over their currencies, China does have some control, however, appreciation to that extent where tomorrow it becomes a larger economy than US will have huge negative effects, so won't be countenanced.
Let me quote Andy Grove from Intel, "Only the paranoid survive."
An apple is a tradeable commodity. Even if it were grown in India, US would pay only marginally higher for it to import and transport it. The high costs in a grocery store include the rent, grocer margins, labor cost in the US which would make it more expensive.
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I am not going to reply any more. It's clear we both have different thoughts, and are unable to influence each other.
No other country has ever gone through the stage China is currently going through. You must understand that submissively rising under the will of the dominant power is entirely different from violently confronting the current dominant power.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Kaja Kallas talking about the US but she’s talking about China also since that’s what Europeans are arguing that Trump is becoming like Russia and China. The hypocrite talks about the “superpowers” overestimating themselves… What then are countries that are not superpowers overestimating themselves? It’s the same thing and that’s you, Europe, the garden, thinking they’re better than everyone else’s jungle.
Of course the tactic is Europe wants the “middle power” countries to unite… under Europe’s direction so they can control and exploit their strategic resources to which Europe has none themselves in abundance. It’s the same Western imperialistic song sung to a different tune. The fact is the important middle powers that are not them and those resources Europe needs mostly have China as their number one partner.
Why does the West fear China’s Belt and Road? Because China is helping countries the West including Europe ignored during the Cold War because they didn’t see them of value worth helping. Why does the US give so much attention to South Pacific Island Nations? It’s because their populations are small meaning they can easily be bought cheaply thus the US has UN votes on their side when necessary.
Just like in history the countries the West saw as worthless a hundred years ago seem to end up sitting on top of elements that today are seen as important. Europe doesn’t have the money to buy off these countries so they’re relegated to the fake romance they’ve spun for themselves. “It’s you and me against the bully superpowers of the world.” Yeah and they’re only first world countries because stealing other countries’ wealth and then they were riding off the coattails of the US under the belief they were superior to everyone else.
China is paying for resources in other countries the West never did because they were their colonies and just took them for free. Look at France and the recent turmoil that took place in their former African colonies. That was a revolt against French colonialism and exploitation that was still happening. And they still think they’re the better choice.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
LMFAO, you said paranoia is good; I didn't. Now you don't want it anymore. LOL
Yeah it is paranoid to have just about the largest population in the world and to face a problem that would only be generations away if the current trend could not be reversed. With the China changing every year for the better, I'm not worried; I would support thinking about it to see what can be done but I'm not alarmist. And the fact that no other country is fixing it means that we're in good company; it's not a unique problem but we have a much larger buffer.
We are talking about economics; why are you always going on and on about demographics? They banned a thread because of annoying alarmist shit like this.
We got it and we got it for the forseeable future.
OK then, it is not comparable between a country that wishes to fight for the world throne and a country that just wants to get along. Their challenges are very different.
Who said I can't? I can imagine a billion times; can you? Why stop at 4, mental capacity reached? LOL
The trend is that countries grow slower entering the developed phase. That's China, but we have extra, don't we? We fight monsters instead of begging them for things.
Refuting with correct logic absolutely makes the oversimplified logic break. That's how debate works.
That's not a problem.
It could be better, so could a lot of things, for every country. Doesn't mean it's worth a shit to make up numbers and saying you wish it were there.
Because the US is a smaller fish and it's growing slower. Nominal rates are bullshit that anybody can manipulate. PPP is absolute. You have these stupid questions because it is your nature to twist things to look like America is doing better.
Higher growth rate is great, but there is no need for it, because need means you will not survive without it. We are on track to surpass the US as is; higher growth rate makes it faster. Faster is great, but need is too harsh a word.
18%, much less than the domestic economy
Salaries are calibrated to cost of living in the area
Then they should use PPP
Don't push your responsibilites on programs. If you have something to say, say it, and we'll stomp it. I'm not fighting AI; I'm beating you.
You are clearly making your entire argument about economics up, just like you did about tech, because you have very little knowledge but a very big mouth.
LMFAO, "later," cus you need to do some excel manipulating, including and excluding to make it look like what you want. It takes me 2 minutes when I don't manipulate anything.
But it seems you don't understand that when China is moving faster than the US and the brain drain is decreasing, it's all inclusive and set to accelerate China's overtake.
You're so funny, bragging about getting the name of a company right when you don't understand what the technology is.
No, your common mistakes are everywhere. Measuring the economy by nominal instead of PPP is a high school level mistake.
Market is all about buying and manipulating who can buy even if your tech is inferior. But in the end, superior tech always wins everything.
Dude, that's what the US managed at the end of WWII when it was at its strongest and China at our weakest. You ask for humility but you cannot show any, and you certain don't keep up with the changing times and power dynamic.
Meaning just you?
Or the rest of us. Or my econ professors. Or the books that tell us how to measure the domestic economy.
So stop asking for it! You're the only dipshit asking for it!
Oh shit, if Andy Grove said it, it must be true, huh? So if anybody is alive and not paranoid, what does that make Mr. Grove?
And that is how stupid you are. An apple is eaten for enjoyment and nutrition so people can work, braindead market slave.
You're not gonna reply anymore because you're always wrong, run away, then say the same stupid defeated shit over and over again. See you next time; I'll be here with my roach-stompin' boots again.
I figured you weren't smart enough to learn a long time ago. I'm here so other people can watch watch this beatdown I'm giving you.
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I am really surprised by this, because Ai Weiwei is old, and old people rarely change their minds about anything.
The anti-China people in the world will have a very difficult year.
Next visitor to China will be Merz, then Trump!
