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VishwaguruSteak

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People assume that once you are cancelled in China, you are permanently cancelled. Like how Simu Liu's comments during an interview about how his parents left China when it was third world lead to Shang-Chi getting limited screenings in China and people assuming he would never be let back in. But what do you know last year, he made a big hoopla about going to Beijing for vacation. That case is small fry though compared to Ai WeiWei, who made a career of being anti-China and has now turned a new leaf.

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More radical types think having the wrong stance on China warrants lifelong punishments. However, changing people's hearts is one of the hallmarks of a great power and people turning to the light should be welcomed with open arms.


"[Ai Wei Wei, Chinese dissident] believes China is “in an upward phase,” pointing to individual wealth, national strength and personal freedoms, though discussing political topics remains taboo. “The overall trajectory is one of ascent, even though different problems emerge at different stages.”


Western society, conversely, is in decline, he argued, in perhaps rare agreement with the frequent message from Chinese leaders. He added that changes he’s seen over the past 10 years have “shocked” him. “It feels like a landslide burying the highways it once built. Values once celebrated now appear hollow and collapsed. The West increasingly struggles to sustain its own logic; in many areas it has lost its ethical authority and descended into something barely recognizable.”


Dang, sounds like he wants back in
 

Sardaukar20

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The Indian scholars and businessmen are taking for granted that India will become the 3rd largest economy in the world. Sunil Barthi Mittal is saying that it's "written in the stars". Comments section is interesting.

Sunil Mittal said that China had a "free pass" with the US market in the past. India doesn't have that today, but it has a 1.5 billion strong consumer market. So he is basically saying that India doesn't need the world market to grow into the third largest economy. Who needs the US and Chinese market anyway?

Here's the problem. India joined the WTO in 1995, while China only joined in 2001. So in terms of having a "free pass" with the US market, India had a 6-year headstart over China. So why didn't India ran ahead of China first? Why did US companies predominantly chose to manufacture in Communist China over Democratic India?

The Indian elites have never dared to ask what if India doesn't achieve it's potential. What if India's lack of success vs China is purely self-inflicted? Opportunities were there, and India's opportunities were actually much better than China. But India keeps missing opportunities and then blames others for it. Right now, India is on course to miss yet another opportunity. But this time, Automation and AI would eventually close the best windows of opportunities for India for good. After that, it's the middle income trap.
 

tamsen_ikard

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The Indian scholars and businessmen are taking for granted that India will become the 3rd largest economy in the world. Sunil Barthi Mittal is saying that it's "written in the stars". Comments section is interesting.

Sunil Mittal said that China had a "free pass" with the US market in the past. India doesn't have that today, but it has a 1.5 billion strong consumer market. So he is basically saying that India doesn't need the world market to grow into the third largest economy. Who needs the US and Chinese market anyway?

Here's the problem. India joined the WTO in 1995, while China only joined in 2001. So in terms of having a "free pass" with the US market, India had a 6-year headstart over China. So why didn't India ran ahead of China first? Why did US companies predominantly chose to manufacture in Communist China over Democratic India?

The Indian elites have never dared to ask what if India doesn't achieve it's potential. What if India's lack of success vs China is purely self-inflicted? Opportunities were there, and India's opportunities were actually much better than China. But India keeps missing opportunities and then blames others for it. Right now, India is on course to miss yet another opportunity. But this time, Automation and AI would eventually close the best windows of opportunities for India for good. After that, it's the middle income trap.
Just cause India will never reach China's potential doesn't mean it will not become the 3rd largest economy. Its pretty much already there. No one thinks India will not grow from 4 trillion to 6 trillion and surpass Germany. Even if it takes 20 years, its certainly going to happen, all thanks India's extreme population and extemely low GDP per capita. Just little bit of urbanization alone will take India to 3rd largest economy.

Germany on the other is not going to grow much in the foreseeble future cause all its industries are going to be eaten by China. They cant move up the value chain and take away market share from US for things like software and AI. So, Germany is done.

Frankly I do get really worried about India because of its population. If they get even remotely good at modernization, they will pose a threat to China long term, just due to population heft.

I want China to take India more seriously, hobble it with all its might and hopefully break it into pieces. China seems too focused on US and the west, which in understandable. But India is the latent threat that must be taken out.
 

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US to EU and Canada and Davos: "nooo you can't make trade deals with China! They will take advantage of you and flood your market with cheap goods."

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The US is actually competing with the rest of the globe, especially the global south, for Chinese capital and investment. It explains a lot of their behaviour.


It makes sense, this 'Chinese professor' would not have become as significant as he did without CIA involvement, just like how all prominent chinese youtubers are falun gong.
 

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I honestly wonder, sooner later the USA is going to end up becoming the walking definition of a rogue nation once it leaves all these institutions that it has created. Once this nation falls and it most definitely will, will other nations that are already rogue (Israel for example) be quite so belligerent the When the USA was at its peak or will they finally see reason. Chances are that its neighbours then might find the back bone to finally do something Instead of sucking Americas shaft as a standard practice. Still once the USA is out of the way, China then take finally take over these organisations and actually make proper use of them
 

AssassinsMace

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The Indian scholars and businessmen are taking for granted that India will become the 3rd largest economy in the world. Sunil Barthi Mittal is saying that it's "written in the stars". Comments section is interesting.

Sunil Mittal said that China had a "free pass" with the US market in the past. India doesn't have that today, but it has a 1.5 billion strong consumer market. So he is basically saying that India doesn't need the world market to grow into the third largest economy. Who needs the US and Chinese market anyway?

Here's the problem. India joined the WTO in 1995, while China only joined in 2001. So in terms of having a "free pass" with the US market, India had a 6-year headstart over China. So why didn't India ran ahead of China first? Why did US companies predominantly chose to manufacture in Communist China over Democratic India?

The Indian elites have never dared to ask what if India doesn't achieve it's potential. What if India's lack of success vs China is purely self-inflicted? Opportunities were there, and India's opportunities were actually much better than China. But India keeps missing opportunities and then blames others for it. Right now, India is on course to miss yet another opportunity. But this time, Automation and AI would eventually close the best windows of opportunities for India for good. After that, it's the middle income trap.

Indians are the masters of spin. India has the courtesy culture where they will lie to you if they believe you'd rather hear the lie than the truth. That's what happening here. Yeah, why hasn't India caught up and surpassed China if they believe India has all these advantages that China doesn't? It's because there's something wrong about India that prevents that from happening and they don't dare talk about it because none of them want to hear it. Just look at the AI discussion at Davos that someone here posted where the India representative on the panel argued that India was actually in the top tier with the US and China on AI development even though they have no models to show of. Just like everything else, all they have is just saying it and you know they would immediately show it off if they had one.

It's like I saw something on YouTube from BBC Asia talking about how Vietnam is now trying to replicate how China does things but they're not ever going to admit it because they're anti-China. The fact is all countries that are anti-China are just envious and they're not going to learn how China did it because they're they don't want to admit it that China got it right. Look at the Bolsonaro right-wing of Brazil. They hate China because they think they should be where China is at and not China. And because the West is suppose to be the best model of the world, how did they do it? They raped their way to get where they're at. That's why Europe ain't doing so well these days because they no longer have their colonies to take from anymore. They're not going to admit that.
 
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