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horse

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I think sometimes people really struggle with the idea that China is on the offensive.

Screw them.

They got to get used to it, and stop whining so much.

Some US government official said, "Your mom did," to some reporter, then was backed up by an even more senior US official, with, "Your mom."

That is the best they can do at the moment.
 
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jiajia99

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Fuck 'em.
Well does China need to conduct an offensive in a way that the USA understands or not? I mean a nation with 4000+ of history should have enough experience to attack in ways that the USA cannot begin to understand. It’s the job of this few hundred year old nation to either put up or simply STFU. They started this fight, and if they lose, they need to be absolutely prepared to suffer, there is not middle ground since the USA refuses to give China any. China will take it all and the USA well if it ends up in an apocalyptic situation, can be left to deal with it, hopefully with some grace
 

tamsen_ikard

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China got so good at success that it got arrogant according to this article. Ahh, if this is what feels like arrogance to USian elites when China is at 14K GDP per capita, I wonder what will they feel when China becomes $30K per capita economy, what about when it passes 60K? Because China isn't stopping at their current level of wealth. They are going to get richer and richer and they will drag the US and European economies down with extreme competiton. These guys are have no idea how much humiliation is in store for them. They will probably have their own century of humiliation.
 

Chevalier

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Well does China need to conduct an offensive in a way that the USA understands or not? I mean a nation with 4000+ of history should have enough experience to attack in ways that the USA cannot begin to understand. It’s the job of this few hundred year old nation to either put up or simply STFU. They started this fight, and if they lose, they need to be absolutely prepared to suffer, there is not middle ground since the USA refuses to give China any. China will take it all and the USA well if it ends up in an apocalyptic situation, can be left to deal with it, hopefully with some grace
The Xiongnu were not won over with civility but with great violence and force of arms. It remains to be seen if the Anglo led west can be trained to be civilised.
Hell, the west has been harping on about how China the mighty dragon if awakened would shake the world and the first thing they try to do is try to kill China. Well they failed and now, China the dragon is mighty pissed.
This attitude was unlike any other I have encountered in ten years observing the U.S.-China relationship. After a century of humiliation at the hands of foreign powers, the Chinese Communist Party seems incapable of resisting the temptation to twist the knife — to savor the sensation of its newfound power after so long being denied the same. The reflex is human, and it is not something that can be negotiated with. The danger is what happens when it collides with an American political culture constitutionally incapable of humility.

It’s why you get articles like this guy trying to say that Chinese reprisals were overboard, it’s like how Americans won’t do anything when a Chinese man is being harassed on the train, but they’ll start screeching once the Chinese man gets up and starts throwing hands.

No, there was a timeline where the Anglo led west could avoid the hammer of justice from China if they accommodated the rise of China, but now, after “China virus”, after kidnapping and murders, after trying to instigate war in east Asia and in doklam, they’re going to find more gloating at the misfortunes of western powers and the inevitable weakening of the stature and power of the west. What happens when the religion of white supremacy encounters a dialectical atheist culture like the CPC? Let drone automated thermonuclear carrying H-20s be the final retort of the Chinese civilisation.
 

Ringsword

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The Xiongnu were not won over with civility but with great violence and force of arms. It remains to be seen if the Anglo led west can be trained to be civilised.
Hell, the west has been harping on about how China the mighty dragon if awakened would shake the world and the first thing they try to do is try to kill China. Well they failed and now, China the dragon is mighty pissed.


It’s why you get articles like this guy trying to say that Chinese reprisals were overboard, it’s like how Americans won’t do anything when a Chinese man is being harassed on the train, but they’ll start screeching once the Chinese man gets up and starts throwing hands.

No, there was a timeline where the Anglo led west could avoid the hammer of justice from China if they accommodated the rise of China, but now, after “China virus”, after kidnapping and murders, after trying to instigate war in east Asia and in doklam, they’re going to find more gloating at the misfortunes of western powers and the inevitable weakening of the stature and power of the west. What happens when the religion of white supremacy encounters a dialectical atheist culture like the CPC? Let drone automated thermonuclear carrying H-20s be the final retort of the Chinese civilisation.
I have noticed that China is now being referred as a "superpower",not "near-peer-adversary",:strong-near-superpower",-amazing what a solid punch in the face will correct another's attitude.
 

doggydogdo

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Not Under Sisi, who came to power specifically with support from the west because they were worried about the "democratic muslim brotherhood" Govt.

Egypt can only be truly independent if they get rid of their current western backed elites and power "returns to the people". Essentially the story of the entire middle-east. Other than Turkey and Iran, every single country is basically compromised.
You don't think Turkey is compromised lol? They are literally part of NATO
 
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