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tamsen_ikard said:

Because they are less of a western worshipper than East Asians. Arabs also did not adopt the western suit. India/Pakistan/South Asia despite being colonized has more of its traditional culture than China or other east asian cultures who whole heartedly abandoned their older culture and customs for western customs.

Compare Indian wedding and Chinese wedding wearing western style dresses and suits. East Asians think Western style wedding as cool and romantic, and their own wedding customs as boring and outdated. South Asians and Middle-easterners don't think like that.

South Asians and Middle-easterners still wear their own style of dresses in everyday life. I see a fundamental difference in thinking between East Asia on this where European customs, dress and culture is seen as cool. South Asians or Middle-easterners consider European/Western culture as corrupting their own culture.

East Asians probably developed faster because of their wholesale adoption of the west, but they also have little of their own culture in day-to-day life.

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Aqrab said:

I think I was NOT Clear. I was referring to the period when Russian Tsar was removed. Long before Putin, Even Russian Christians were victimized and millions died along with Muslims and even Ukrainians at that time.

The man charge of that mass murder was Leon Trotsky among others. Yes there were others. All of them claimed to be Zionists. I was NOT supporting Ukraine here. I was saying, long before Putin ever existed, during early soviet era this happened. I was referring to the period during which Russian monarch was removed. During that period, the Bolsheviks murdered millions.

It were mostly Christians,, Muslims and some other people that were horrifically killed. s. I meant the period between 1918 tp 1939 when people like Leon Trotsky who being Jewish hardliners hated both Muslims and christian. Millions of Christians, Muslims died in the hands of Leon Trotsky who ran a terror campaign unlike another. This is historic fact. In old archives in Germany and Russia, There are documents that show some scale of terror. Lot of it was destroyed to hid true scale of crimes. Even christian and muslims babies were not spared, so many died of hunger and disses. Entire Chechnya was expelled into Siberia, and more than half of them starve to death in extreme cold and despair. Mothers Froze with babies in their hands. Thats was nearly a 100 years ago.

A true holocaust of Russian christian and Muslims was committed by what later became creators of Israel. , some authers estimated nearly 30 million dead, in Russia, Ukraine, and surrounding regions.

But moving to the present, I was surprised that while Ukrain and Russian Chrsitians (as well muslims) are fighting each other.

that is Russian muslims are fighting along side with Russian chrisitans against Ukrainian christians and ukranians muslims.

But jewish people are NOT fighting with each other. Meaning Russian jewish community continued to maintain good relationships with Ukrainian Jewish people. They both are benificiary of this war. I did NOT say muslims and chrisitans are fighting each othter. Far from it, Muslims are fighting muslims such as Russian muslims are fighting ukranian muslims (with some chechen exceptions, as chechen fighting on both sides due to being pro or anti russian). Furthmore Russian chrisitans are fighting Ukranian Christians.

But Rusisan jewish community to my surprise, mixing, mingling with love with Ukranian community. On both sides they are the richest, having powerful people. Even gettng married in the middle of the war.

They are benefiting from the war, even in Ukraine most powerful are making money while average Russian and Ukrainian soldiers are losing their limbs and life. Many of those who are benefiting from this war, have Israeli citizenship. Look at zelensky;s cabinet when war started. almost all of them are jewish and all of them stole money form western funds so much that some had to go, and many went back to Israel. This war was planned by US. To force Russian into the war so that Russian suffers and so would the average Ukranian. Ukranians are led to the false believe that US is their friend whenn Ukrainians are nothing but a tool to harm Russia. In the process They are canon fodder. They die for nothing. Zelensky himself lost nothing.

Zelensky is a clear case of a psychopath. He should NOT have involved western nations if he was sincere. He should have tried to resolve all issues directly with Putin. He should have refused Nato. If he had done that, today there would be no war. Clearly He is making money out of it. All those western billlions went somewhere. Zelensky and his people are making money and want to contiue this war for their benefits.

In any event I understand you meant well. I was essentially angry at US. a country totally out control and very cruel too.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Because they are less of a western worshipper than East Asians. Arabs also did not adopt the western suit. India/Pakistan/South Asia despite being colonized has more of its traditional culture than China or other east asian cultures who whole heartedly abandoned their older culture and customs for western customs.

Compare Indian wedding and Chinese wedding wearing western style dresses and suits. East Asians think Western style wedding as cool and romantic, and their own wedding customs as boring and outdated. South Asians and Middle-easterners don't think like that.

South Asians and Middle-easterners still wear their own style of dresses in everyday life. I see a fundamental difference in thinking between East Asia on this where European customs, dress and culture is seen as cool. South Asians or Middle-easterners consider European/Western culture as corrupting their own culture.

East Asians probably developed faster because of their wholesale adoption of the west, but they also have little of their own culture in day-to-day life.

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Randomuser said:

I hear this said by Indians a lot. If they want to be consistent, they should stop using English, using western technology, western administration methods, hollywood film methods and all the other stuff. They should stop using weather observations or whatever and just pray to Shiva like the old days. They can't just cherrypick stuff like we wear our own clothes while taking everything else and claiming they are not influenced heavily.

Asians do this coz its the international norm. In the future, if some other country designs those futuristic like clothing, east asia will adopt it. It doesn't have to be from the west, it comes from whoever designed it and therefore sets the international standard.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Because they are less of a western worshipper than East Asians. Arabs also did not adopt the western suit. India/Pakistan/South Asia despite being colonized has more of its traditional culture than China or other east asian cultures who whole heartedly abandoned their older culture and customs for western customs.

Compare Indian wedding and Chinese wedding wearing western style dresses and suits. East Asians think Western style wedding as cool and romantic, and their own wedding customs as boring and outdated. South Asians and Middle-easterners don't think like that.

South Asians and Middle-easterners still wear their own style of dresses in everyday life. I see a fundamental difference in thinking between East Asia on this where European customs, dress and culture is seen as cool. South Asians or Middle-easterners consider European/Western culture as corrupting their own culture.

East Asians probably developed faster because of their wholesale adoption of the west, but they also have little of their own culture in day-to-day life.

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steemdrice said:

The absolute explosion of popularity of Hanfu would suggest that your thinking on how Chinese view Western fashion is severely outdated.

Also I wasn't aware that the bridesmaids testing the husband on the wedding day was a Western tradition. Or that red is the colour that Western brides wear. Or that the tea ceremony is a Western invention.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Western Europeans of the middle ages adopted Chinese technology, Tea, Silk and so on. But they didn't adopt Chinese customs and clothing. And that didn't stop them from progressing.

So, yes you can, and most certainly should cherry pick what you adopt from other countries and cultures, unless you want to lose your own identity. There are plenty of examples of cultures and people who essentially went extinct cause they adopted too much of other peoples cultures and languages until nothing remains of their own, so now they are essentially assimilated.

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Maikeru said:

Why does Modi always dress like that? I mean, it would be a bit odd if XJP turned up to events in Hanfu and Putin dressed as a Cossack.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Western White wedding is the overwhelming popular type of wedding happening in most east asian countries. Yes, there is a movement in China to revive old traditions, clothing and some Chinese are choosing traditional wedding again. This is a positive step towards reviving their own cultural identity. But this is still in the early stages.

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Maikeru said:

Why does Modi always dress like that? I mean, it would be a bit odd if XJP turned up to events in Hanfu and Putin dressed as a Cossack.

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