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Mmmeeeto

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I know this is my second post about this, but can anyone explain the Maga meltdown over 600k chinese students? And it's not really limited to Maga as I've seen.

For all I know international students are just academic tourists, and the ones who choose to stay and settle in America , are known to be the backbone of America's lead in innovation . Or "brain gain" as opposed to brain drain.

So what's exactly being lost?

Am I underestimating American stupidity?

 

Thecore

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I know this is my second post about this, but can anyone explain the Maga meltdown over 600k chinese students? And it's not really limited to Maga as I've seen.

For all I know international students are just academic tourists, and the ones who choose to stay and settle in America , are known to be the backbone of America's lead in innovation . Or "brain gain" as opposed to brain drain.

So what's exactly being lost?

Am I underestimating American stupidity?

Because the Chinese students are gonna steal all the non-existent technology that they will come up with, even though they barely passed 1st year linear algebra with a 60% and probably failed level 1 multivariable calculus atrociously and eventually decided to switch to communications. Yes incoming Chinese students will steal all the mighty technological innovations of all these American geniuses.
 

siegecrossbow

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I know this is my second post about this, but can anyone explain the Maga meltdown over 600k chinese students? And it's not really limited to Maga as I've seen.

For all I know international students are just academic tourists, and the ones who choose to stay and settle in America , are known to be the backbone of America's lead in innovation . Or "brain gain" as opposed to brain drain.

So what's exactly being lost?

Am I underestimating American stupidity?


Total international students in the U.S. between 2023 and 2024 was under 1.2 million. This will pretty much triple the number of Chinese students in U.S.
 

Sardaukar20

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Wonderful news. Japan plans to double its investments into the Supapowar.
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During PM Modi's visit, the two Asian nations also intend to revise their joint declaration on security cooperation for the first time in 17 years, according to a report by Nikkei Asia. The renewed agreement is expected to reflect contemporary priorities and to be responsive to the current security challenges facing them.
Chyyynaaa!!!

"India possesses the world's largest population and a wealth of talented engineers. Tokyo plans to focus on educating talent that can serve as a bridge to help Japanese companies set up shop in India," a report by Nikkei Asia said.

In the past five years, as many as 25,000 Indian specialists have joined Japan's workforce. Ishiba has said he plans to double that figure to '50,000' in the next five years.
India has plenty of specialists indeed. Don't forget to hire Indian CEOs too. They are the best in the world.

Furthermore, an AI Cooperation Initiative will be established to specifically advance collaboration in AI technology and startups, according to a report by The Asahi Shimbun.

Per the report, a project called Digital Partnership 2.0 will be developed to expand economic collaboration beyond manufacturing to encompass emerging technological fields, such as semiconductors, AI and startups.
A Japan that far behind in the semi-conductor, software, and AI race, coupled with an India that is nowhere in the race. This is gonna become the best collaboration ever.

In the clean energy sector, Japan and India will issue a Joint Statement on Energy Dialogue aimed at promoting cooperation to simultaneously achieve decarbonisation, economic growth and energy security.

The two countries are expected to announce the introduction of the Joint Crediting Mechanism, a bilateral system that allows Japan to count carbon emissions cuts achieved by spreading its greenhouse gas-reducing technologies in India toward its reduction targets.
How is this gonna be achieved? Energy efficiency? Renewables? EVs? When Japan works with the Supapowar, anything is possible.

As part of India's Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project, which is being implemented with Japanese assistance, the two Prime Ministers are expected to reach an agreement on the introduction of the next-generation E10 series bullet train under development by East Japan Railway Co.
The E5 Shinkansen for the Supapowar is old news already. It's HSR project is taking so long that the E5 is probably phased out for the E10 when it is completed. Jai Hind!
 

horse

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I hope you are right. But I am not optimistic based on what happened in hong kong, taiwan and inside China itself with such a large percentage of the elites holding anti-china opinions.

1. White worship is retarded. Many Hong Kong people feel that way. I have not been back for ages, but that was apparent in the past, and apparent on how easily Hong Kong was subdued. When white worship is considered retarded, I do not think that movement will persist.

2. In Asia, history is not linear, it is cyclical. Only white worshipers and white people would have everyone believe the former. The end of history was just another attempt at that. They know what is coming.
 

horse

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The problem of ‘Elite Capture’ is the biggest challenge to China winning over hearts and minds of these countries. Especially the Phillipines, where nobody is even pretending that the US has the Marcos’ family assets held by the balls, so it better do what the US wants it to do. Think about it, the Philippines is dirt poor, and would benefit from a strong relationship with China with which it can develop, and its location would be unmatched in the East Asian trade supply chain. So why take such an antagonist stance against China. Even other SEA countries like Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia which have similar grievances over SCS take more pragmatic economic considerations into account.

It is not easy to understand "backwardness" unless we lived in it, or experience first hand on a constant basis.

There are many places in the world that are backwardness. Some of them also retarded.

The backwardness means that place does not survive or just wallows in their own shit and poverty forever. The retarded do not survive period.

Look at the Western orientated Liberal elite in Hong Kong, they have been totally eliminated. I never thought I would live to see that day, but it came and went.

To get wiped out like they did, really means to me there was nothing there. Whatever they believed was so shallow it was easy to wipe out.

Not even funny, when it gets eradicated like that. Like there is no trace of them left.

:oops::D
 

Sardaukar20

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India will never be a friend of China. Zhou Enlai tried to end the border conflict already back in the 1950s by proposing mutual acceptance of border areas. China would get Aksai Chin and India would get what they call Arunachal Pradesh. India rejected it then and has rejected it since.

Don't fool yourself. India is only moving towards China because circumstances forced them to. There is great distrust among Indians, particularly the Hindutva types. Ironically, it's precisely these self-styled nationalists who were the biggest boosters of a US-India partnership. The left-secular Congress had traditionally favoured a more balanced foreign policy, closer to Russia and the global south.

For the Philippines, public sentiment is overwhelmingly anti-China. For Vietnam, it's more complex. The leadership is pretty pro-China but the people beneath the elites are more pro-US. This is weird, given the brutal Vietnam war. China's brief border skirmish was a nothingburder in comparison.

I think the main reason for all of this is the diaspora. Indian, Vietnamese and Filipinos diasporas are all very numerous in the West and this creates a natural cultural link to elites back home. China is a much more closed society, so there hasn't been the opportunity to create foreign diasporas. In addition, China was simply too poor to be attractive for immigrants until recently. For these reasons, people-to-people ties are scarce compared to what the West can offer these countries. China also has its own enclosed cultural space. India consumes lots of Western culture, whereas China largely does not except a few films on the margins.

Making a rational argument on economics is a very Chinese way of thinking, because Chinese people are pragmatic and rational. But people in global south countries often have emotional and social factors swaying their decisions. It's the same reason why elites in countries like Iran or Armenia keep running into the arms of the West even if it doesn't make much sense from a cold geopolitical standpoint. Because it's an emotional decision.
Agreed on the most part except that China actually has arguably one of largest (if not the largest) foreign diasporas in the world, stretching back centuries. They can be found on practically every continent. What made the Chinese different from the Indians, Vietnamese, and Filipinos is that they have a civilizational identity. India was created by the British, Vietnam is breakaway state from China combined with pieces of former French Indochina, and the Philippines got its name from King Philip II of Spain. These are post-colonial upstart nations who have gotten much of their modern identity from European colonial empires. They have a strange love-hate relationship with their former colonizers. They resent their colonial history, yet they also yearn to be excepted as relative equals by their former colonial masters. They all look down on China because it is not considered in the same caste as the white imperial powers.

India and the Philippines got their independence from begging. Hence they feel a closer sense of kinship with their former colonial masters. They think that they are in the superior caste above the Chinese. Vietnam kicked French and American butts out of their nation and were right to be proud of that. But they refused to admit that without China's vast assistance, that would be have been practically impossible. They tried to argue that it was the Soviets (Russians), who had been instrumental to their victory, not the Chinese. The Sino-Vietnam wars from 1979-1991 put that argument to bed. It was China who had been important to Indochina, not the Soviets.

Zhou Enlai said Nehru was the most arrogant person he ever came across. Keep in mind Zhou has met countless leaders including those from nations who are actively hostile and flat out said they would like to see him dead. And yet he found those guys more tolerable than Nehru who kept bragging how he would destroy China if it didn't do what he said. Zhou generally is supposed to be the more diplomatic dove in China compared to other hawkish leaders and he still supported China should go to war with India.
Its not just Zhou Enlai who had complained about Nehru's arrogance. Even the 14th Dalai Lama had complained about his first meeting with Nehru. He had called him a bit of a "bully". Apparently Nehru was easily irritable, and he likes to bang his table when talking to the Dalai Lama.

I would also add some more things about the 1962 war. The Indian elites, including Nehru have often considered India (themselves) to be the successor to the British Raj. In essence, India wants to be the new imperial power in South Asia and beyond after the British have left. Prior to the war, Nehru was already been playing imperialism games with China's Xizang. He had cooperated with the CIA's operations in Xizang, and he had provided asylum to the Dalai Lama and his separatists.

On the border, Nehru had refused to compromise with the Chinese. He then launched his Forward Policy in December 1961, which orders Indian troops to occupy Chinese territories even beyond the McMahon Line into China proper (like the Dhola Post), and to shoot any Chinese border troops who try to dislodge them. This is basically a classic ground invasion, an act of war. Even Indian soldiers have commented that Nehru said that he wanted to attack. Nehru had assumed that China at that time was weak, occupied with the Taiwan Strait Crises, and therefore wouldn't dare to counter attack mighty India. This Indian border offensive went on until the PLA finally launched a proper counter-attack on Oct 1962. So India had technically started the Sino-Indian war by the end of 1961. Zhou was right to support China's legitimate right to fight a war to defend its territory.

Congress or RSS. It doesn't matter whoever rules India. Both are imperialists and don't respect China's territorial integrity. There can't be lasting peace as long as the Indian elites continue to have imperial dreams.
 
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jiajia99

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I know this is my second post about this, but can anyone explain the Maga meltdown over 600k chinese students? And it's not really limited to Maga as I've seen.

For all I know international students are just academic tourists, and the ones who choose to stay and settle in America , are known to be the backbone of America's lead in innovation . Or "brain gain" as opposed to brain drain.

So what's exactly being lost?

Am I underestimating American stupidity?

Well, after spending years debating this, the only conclusion I can come up with is that they literally born stupid and have never been disciplined by their mothers and even worst, any attempts could now be a basis for arrest via the child abuse and DEI lobby for anything like a light spank on the ass for I don’t know, nearly burning the house down
 
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