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4Tran

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India have been offering itself as a chess piece for USA/EU to contain and hold China down. China doesn't want India to submit nor will India. This is just the India author using China to scaremonger some American policy makers.

India is not reliable nor trusted. The sooner the Chinese government sees and understand this and prepare to go against India as a major competitor and geopolitical threat the better.
I think that China has stopped actively trying to court India since Galwan. But at the same time, there's no need to take any serious action against India either. China's main strategic threats are in the Western Pacific, and it just needs some time (say around 2035) before the PLA is strong enough that this threat is effectively nullified. Until then, it's more important to keep tensions on the Indian border down. Right now, India is too weak militarily to be much of a danger, and propping up Pakistan's armed forces are an effective counter.
 

SDtom

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I think that China has stopped actively trying to court India since Galwan. But at the same time, there's no need to take any serious action against India either. China's main strategic threats are in the Western Pacific, and it just needs some time (say around 2035) before the PLA is strong enough that this threat is effectively nullified. Until then, it's more important to keep tensions on the Indian border down. Right now, India is too weak militarily to be much of a danger, and propping up Pakistan's armed forces are an effective counter.
I am not talking about illegal economic and aggressive military actions against India. But China must understand India, however weak it might be today, wants to challenge and undermine China's economical and geopolitical interests. India is growing and it is foolish for China not to see it and underestimate it. China must advance economically and technologically to keep ahead of India and work with countries around India to keep its interests shield from Indian attacks.

One of the new idea recently is a new Saarc like block but without India.

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In a quiet but potentially defining moment for South Asia, the foreign ministers of Pakistan, China and Bangladesh convened in the Chinese city of Kunming last month. It may have looked like just another diplomatic gathering, but it signalled a strategic shift – one that could recalibrate the balance of regional cooperation and breathe life into the idea of a regional framework post-SAARC, the
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This new group/block can cover economic, security and infra developments. Also, make a rule that new membership needs unanimous vote of acceptance so India can't worm itself in like it did with SCO, ASEAN+, etc.
 
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4Tran

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I am not talking about illegal economic and aggressive military actions against India. But China must understand India, however weak it might be today, wants to challenge and undermine China's economical and geopolitical interests. India is growing and it is foolish for China not to see it and underestimate it. China must advance economically and technologically to keep ahead of India and work with countries around India to keep its interests shield from Indian attacks.

One of the new idea recently is a new Saarc like block but without India.

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This new group/block can cover economic, security and infra developments. Also, make a rule that new membership needs unanimous vote of acceptance so India can't worm itself in like it did with SCO, ASEAN+, etc.
China is already doing all of these things, but they're not really using India as a target because there's no need to. Instead, the target is to be able to take on the US. In general though, the PLA tends to define its goals based on its own needs rather than on what its opponents can do.

On the diplomatic front, I'm sure that we can all tell that China is fully aware how much India is a burden to organizations such as SCO and BRICS. I wouldn't be surprised if China builds up new groups that don't include India. A South Asian group is a natural fit as all of the other players have their disagreements with India, and they all (including Bhutan!) have better relations with China. But at the end of the day, China simply doesn't believe in power blocs or spheres of influence so it doesn't have that much use for stronger ties with other countries.

Besides, India won't become a real threat to China for several decades, and as long as China's development keeps apace, China will be in a far better position to deal it by then. I also think that China's critical material ban throws a huge wrench into the works. In theory, this makes it nearly impossible for most militaries to build advanced weapons unless they have large stockpiles. Most countries don't have such stockpiles so we don't know how the world's militaries can deal with this issue.
 

AssassinsMace

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This is the type of person people in usa unironically listen to just check the comments but I'm glad tho the more arrogant and ignorant the better

I watch and listen to opposition views but this child molester looking “pilot” I don’t bother with much anymore. Doesn’t Max know this is not the 1970s? I’ve seen enough of him to know he’s just lying to himself and to his audience just to get views. If I recall correctly he had I think was his father, who was an F-4 pilot, on one of his videos saying he could take on any of China’s stealth fighters with his F-4. That’s what you see a lot of the US military is they are no different from seeing children boasting the same way and this was an old geezer.

I think I’ve seen all the YouTube channels with former US fighter pilots say one way or another that all Western fighters are superior to any Chinese fighter. Now we know these so-called experts lie where to the least they don’t know. What does that say about their so-called expert analysis? What happened with India and Pakistan was the most advanced level engagement between fighters ever so far and the inferior one to them won hands down. Yeah they can spin all they want what other factors were or weren’t in play but it remains that with "no doubt" most inferior fighter to them won not with one or two but three to zero. You don’t think if it were the way around, you wouldn’t see the most horrific nightmare to a puritan virgin Christian stuck in the middle of most gay orgasmic fest ever that would put Rome to shame?

Before when the US was the only country that had stealth fighters, stealth was invincibility. But now that China has stealth fighters, all of the sudden stealth can now be defeated. Is it just more boasting? It was boasting when they said stealth was invincibility when the US only had stealth fighters. Back then also they made stealth sound as if it also meant invisibility. Stealth is not invisibility. Is that's what got these so-called experts' undies in a bunch. To them the J-36 and the J-50 can't be stealthy because they can't claim China stole it from them. Which are they more angry about? Because it was or wasn't stolen from them so they can or cannot take credit?

One of these guys, not Max, said of the misperception of air superiority was that it was all about dog-fighting because if you're in to dog-fighting, it means your into last resorts meaning everything else has failed. So what if they're judging the J-36 by its size or it you don't have a large degree of view especially with side-by-side seats. If the J-36 can fly high enough where most anti-aircraft weapons can't reach it and can carry longer range missiles than you have, the other guy is in trouble. Shaping is only a part of stealth. There's a whole lot more than just that and beyond the stealth fighter itself and it's something they don't talk about. There's was an article talking about kill chains and kill webs and one of the comments asks why all of the sudden these new terms. They're not new. They just don't about them because like with stealth fighters, it's not about what the fighter itself can do offensively and defensively that goes into defeating an opponent.

Look at how the Western pundits are blaming China for Iran being able to hit Israel with it's ballistic missiles. First they said Israel intercepted them all. Then most of them. Now they saying about half which is possibly still inaccurate. But what is it that China did that made Iran's missiles defeat Israel's defenses? It was Iran had access to China's GNSS while the US blocked them from using GPS. They want you to pay attention to certain things just to avoid you seeing the other things they can't control so easily when it can be more obtainable. Israel's defenses are over-hyped and can easily be countered by other available means. Israel is the West's prime example of how they would hold up against potential adversaries.
 
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