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FriedRiceNSpice
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Only at an extremely high level, a level irrelevant for 99% of people anyways. If you look at director level management in the most elite software companies, or managing directors on Wall Street, East Asians are still overrepresented there.
I agree there is a cause and effect relationship between media portrayal and crimes against Asians, but these crimes are being committed by private citizens and not an example of government oppression.
Yes, that is a good example of oppression. However, this is a pretty recent development. Let me ask you this though: if China were to pass a law banning US nationals from working in rare earths research- would you condemn it as government oppression?
At the end of the day, the US is a predominantly Anglo-Saxon nation. Expecting other races to be given equal treatment is an unrealistic standard. No society ever in the history of mankind has treated other races as well as its ruling and/or majority race. That's just human nature, humans evolved that way for a reason. However, the level of oppression Asians receive in the US is trivial when compared to say how African Americans were oppressed throughout most of American history, or how Africans were oppressed in South Africa or how Palestinians are oppressed in their homeland. Most of us here dont even approve of China accepting immigrants.
Crying about oppression of Asians in the US is distracting from the real acts of oppression, which is committed by the US and Western powers against the hundreds of millions of peoples outside of their borders. The US has supported, funded, and armed more highly oppressive and authoritarian states in the last 80 years than any other nation.
Iran was once an actual democracy, before MI6/CIA backed coup resulted in an unpopular monarchy which was overthrown by the Islamic revolution. SK was a dictatorship that was equally oppressive and authoritarian as NK until the late 1980s. The separatists in Taiwan were just as oppressive as Culutural Revolution China up until the second half of Chiang's son's rule. And the US launched countless coups throughout Latin America and the Middle East to put strongmen in power.
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That sounds exactly like what a Democrat party voter or leader (behind closed doors) would say. This has nothing to do with corporate or management representation as a % of the population. It has to do with hiring and promoting based on merit. This happens more on the cutting edge of technical work like in AI, pharma, etc., but when you look at management in corporate organizations in general (not cherry picking by only looking at "elite" software companies or Wall Street), ethnic Chinese are still vastly underrepresented relative to their % share of the local metro area, state, or national population (since that's more alike the measuring stick you seem to value over others). And speaking of giant elite tech or finance companies, some people here have worked for some of them and a quick look at an org chart shows what you're saying about overrepresentation is total BS. Overrepresented in individual contributor engineering or science roles? Maybe sometimes depending on the company, state, city, or office. Overrepresented in management roles or at a national level? Not even close. And even if that were to somehow be or become true, it's still not the right measuring stick. The right measuring stick is hiring and promoting by merit regardless of any hard or soft quotas for ethnic or racial representation. Same goes for education admission quotas (hard or soft). As for excluding them from political decision making roles in government, or military, that is obviously completely reasonable.
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FriedRiceNSpice
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Having spent 15+ years across a half dozen elite software companies, I have more than sufficient data. You do realize management and IC are different tracks do you? East Asians are more likely to gravitate towards IC track. Frankly, unless you can make it to director or higher, IC is the better route to pick in tech. First two levels of management is basically for people that fail to advance along the IC track. You cannot expect the representation in management to follow the representation amongst ICs, but relative to the general population East Asians are still significantly over represented at the director level.
Saying Asians are doing better in America coz they earn more fails to adjust for education and career sector. The Asians who come tend to be from better backgrounds such as being rich, coming to do a masters, working in STEM. So of course they earn more money than the average white high school drop from Mississippi. If you're some Asian who went to MIT and works in silicon valley, you don't compared yourself to that guy, you compare yourself to your white peers who most likely are gonna be your boss.
Its why I find it stupid when you see Jai Hinds boasting that Indians earn the most in Americans. The vast majority of them are in H1B white collar tech jobs in high costs of living areas. Of course they will outlearn Cletus from Alabama. And yet even with their high salaries, they are there to somehow undercut salaries of tech workers which have even higher salaries which shows how high they are. Also have you noticed despite how high Indians are in earnings. there are very few of them in America who are truly wealthy? At least Chinese have people like Jensen Huang or Eric Yuan and a lot more of them came from poorer backgrounds, not white collar work.
Btw did you know Filipinos are also like the second or third highest earning ethnicity in America? Guess they are some master race huh? It can't be due to heavily inflated nursing salaries.
Its why I find it stupid when you see Jai Hinds boasting that Indians earn the most in Americans. The vast majority of them are in H1B white collar tech jobs in high costs of living areas. Of course they will outlearn Cletus from Alabama. And yet even with their high salaries, they are there to somehow undercut salaries of tech workers which have even higher salaries which shows how high they are. Also have you noticed despite how high Indians are in earnings. there are very few of them in America who are truly wealthy? At least Chinese have people like Jensen Huang or Eric Yuan and a lot more of them came from poorer backgrounds, not white collar work.
Btw did you know Filipinos are also like the second or third highest earning ethnicity in America? Guess they are some master race huh? It can't be due to heavily inflated nursing salaries.
Reading the Congo deal, man china needs to work on their media platforms.
There should be shit loads of articles about how the US is pitching Africa against eachother.
Or at least china should have helped Congo more to get their minerals.
I mean is it really that easy for the US to play these games against these countries.
Now they are trying to impeach the Thai pro china govt. Com'on china, do something for God's sake.
There should be shit loads of articles about how the US is pitching Africa against eachother.
Or at least china should have helped Congo more to get their minerals.
I mean is it really that easy for the US to play these games against these countries.
Now they are trying to impeach the Thai pro china govt. Com'on china, do something for God's sake.
I think it would be a bad thing if Chinese were statistically represented equally across a large number of fields relative to population. White Americans are pretty sensitive about things like this. And you can cry oppression and racism all you want, but lynched is lynched and dead is dead. For all the talk about equality in the US, most ethnic minorities should follow the adage: "Out of sight, out of mind."
The White American mind becomes rabid with rage when confronted with the unfortunate truth that high-skill immigrants outperform them in hi-tech high-paying jobs. And need I remind you all, they own most of the guns. And account for a good portion of the voting population, so the political establishment isn't going to put up much of a fuss.
I think the unfortunately labeled 'white trash' is pretty close to blowing in the US, what with the recent surge in ethno-nationalist rhetoric targeting a new crop of young whites who can't find well-paying jobs.
In any case, it's certainly not a matter of governmental policy but of widescale prejudices in the population (though this does influence governmental attitude). And it's also something best left untouched. Especially given that in the current geopolitical climate, any 'uppity Chinese' can be kicked aside using the "CCP agent" excuse.
plawolf
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Standard America MA. Wants something but don’t want to pay for it, start a fire in the house of the person who owns it and offers to put out the fire in exchange for what America wanted in the first place. Pirates and bandits in the blood and DNA.