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TK3600

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People just don't know Chinese history. Otherwise they will notice almost every main enemy Chinese dynasties dealt with in their primes were wiped out to extinction or neutered totally. People keep saying China had two foreign dynasties without asking what happened to their people afterwards.

And funny enough the Qing dynasty run by Manchus not only agreed with China's methods towards it's enemies, it went a step further. That's why it had no issues wiping on the Mongol problem once and for all.
I am pretty sure puyee the last Qing emperor was pacified, not thrown into guillotine. Manchus were not genocided either. Only Mongols Drungar was genocided, by Qing emperor, who do not follow ways of Han traditions.
 

SimaQian

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It's funny how same historical patterns reoccur.

British empire trying to fix the silver trade deficit with Qing, then leading to Opium Wars which UK force feed British Indian opium under gunboat diplomacy.

This persistent trade deficit is a historical recurring pattern.
There is a study presented by Ray Dalio.

In short:
1.) Hard times create strong men
2.) Strong men create good times
3.) Good times create weak men, lazyness, inflation + LGBTQ+
4.) Back to hard times.
 

ansy1968

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There is a study presented by Ray Dalio.

In short:
1.) Hard times create strong men
2.) Strong men create good times
3.) Good times create weak men, lazyness, inflation + LGBTQ+
4.) Back to hard times.
In short we middle age man are strong that can last the distance.

While Gen Z are sissies, they can't rise to the occasion and need a hand to do so.... lol
 
I am pretty sure puyee the last Qing emperor was pacified, not thrown into guillotine. Manchus were not genocided either. Only Mongols Drungar was genocided, by Qing emperor, who do not follow ways of Han traditions.
Manchus were considered civilized and Manchu society and culture lay within the Sinosphere, while Mongols were considered barbarians and existed outside of the Sinosphere. The Ming did not consider Manchus outsiders- they were invited in after all (Manchus were unable to penetrate the Great Wall).

Even if the Qing emperor wasn't following "Han traditions", his Duzungar campaigns mirrors the campaigns of many previous dynasties. What happened to the Xiongu and Turkic Khaganate? What did the Ming do to the Mongols? The Chinese solution for nomadic outsiders that could not be pacified through trade and tribute has always been the same.
 
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antiterror13

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People just don't know Chinese history. Otherwise they will notice almost every main enemy Chinese dynasties dealt with in their primes were wiped out to extinction or neutered totally. People keep saying China had two foreign dynasties without asking what happened to their people afterwards.

And funny enough the Qing dynasty run by Manchus not only agreed with China's methods towards it's enemies, it went a step further. That's why it had no issues wiping on the Mongol problem once and for all.

What the Qing did to the Mongol problem once and for all? I thought Mongol problems were sorted entirely by the Ming ?
 

Randomuser

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India is still whining China is blocking or delaying iphone manufacturing equipment to them coz its scared of India rising. What justification does China have in this case?

I believe India sanctioned China first starting in 2020 so whatever victim or innocent narrative it wants can take a hike. China is just simply getting even especially with a country openly saying it wants to take China's manufacturing. Then China has the right to protect its own interest. It has no obligation to help other openly hostile country. No human rights nonsense needed.

At the very least this is very expensive sensitive equipment. It doesn't go out unless proper procedures are done first. India should know this best given how much time they take.

Also I am reading if India really believes it has a case, then they should take this to the WTO. Instead it just spends it times whining on Twitter which makes me think that China should stand its ground hard. Its basically no different than a typical Indian customer complaining about everything, you don't give in.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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India is still whining China is blocking or delaying iphone manufacturing equipment to them coz its scared of India rising. What justification does China have in this case?

I believe India sanctioned China first starting in 2020 so whatever victim or innocent narrative it wants can take a hike. China is just simply getting even especially with a country openly saying it wants to take China's manufacturing. Then China has the right to protect its own interest. It has no obligation to help other openly hostile country. No human rights nonsense needed.

At the very least this is very expensive sensitive equipment. It doesn't go out unless proper procedures are done first. India should know this best given how much time they take.
China biggest foreign policy blunder will be to not spending massive money to destabilize, degrade and eventually break up India. They are letting India go easy. They still think they can convince India not to join an anti-China alliance. Instead they should be focusing on taking India out of the equation completely.
 

horse

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My question is why is India esp it's government still being allowed to say stuff and have people assume they are not lying? They didn't get caught once but twice now. And a third time since that report showed in 1962, they knew what they were doing would provoke China but claimed China backstabbed them. Why is India still allowed to be assumed to have credibility? They should be automatically assumed to have less credibility than western programs that claim to know about North Korea.

In this case, I blame the west more since they are the ones enabling this behaviour.

They have to do that. The Indian government has no choice but to control their own population via disinformation.

Disinformation seems to me usually is always directed against your own population.

Look at President Trump this past week. He claims the United States and China are talking about some trade deal.

The words of the president hold weight, that is something he learned this time. So everyone listens to what he says, but no one talks about why this tariff plan is kind of gone off script.

Trump peddling disinformation about China, is to not have people inside the US attack him for it.
 
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