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Iracundus

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GulfLander said:
British media LBC talking abt trade aar. (Expect the typical antiCN stereotyping)
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Although they spend about the first 60% talking about the trade war and why they think China will win vs Trump, then they spend the next 20% talking about how China's innovation is used to create a seamless police state. The host said that given the choice between the chaos and uncertainty of Trump's America, and Xi's seamless technological police state it's clear which he'd rather choose. Although he doesn't say the answer, it's all but implied he'd still choose the US (presumably because it's also white). This is the racism creating such a total blind spot such that even if one side is objectively better in every single metric, they'd still choose the other just because they're white (of course they don't say that but use codewords like "freedom" or "democracy").

Then the last 20% is spent talking about China's weaknesses or potential economic issues. This is the final wishful thinking phase of hoping China runs into problems and somehow against the odds fails, even though they concede that if they had to bet on the winner of this US vs China trade war they would bet on China.
 
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Feima said:
Towards the end one of the interviewees said if these loan words are used by Japanese people in everyday speech, then they are part of the Japanese language. E.g. while one would learn that pa-so-kon is the word for computer, many may neither know nor care that pasokon is short for "pasona konputa" the Japanified pronunciation for "personal computer".

Long term depends on whether US gets chased out of Asia or continues to dominate Japan.
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This is true. Especially in the case of East Asia. How many words are loanwords from Chinese?
For example, Mount Fuji is usually referred to as Fuji-san (the Chinese way), rather than the "native" Japanese which would be Fuji-yama
Korean probably has even more loan words, easy example yuk vs. gogi (meat)
 
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TPenglake said:
Well, my worries have come to pass, Far Right Koreans have begun to take their anger out on the Chinese community over Yoon's impeachment, although thankfully the prediction there would be violence hasn't metastasized just yet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1913220068592464055
Here is the Youtube Korean news report on the incident. Google translating some of the top comments, disturbingly half seem to support the protesters. I think one of the comments alluded to the fact that the place the Koreans were intimidating is an actual Chinese-Chinese neighborhood and they didn't bother to go to a Joseonjeok neighborhood, mostly I presume due to the reputation of those neighborhoods for having a lot of organized crime gangs.
I don't follow Korean news that much, so I don't know how bad the situation could escalate. But I do hope a contigency plan could be put in place should things get out of hand and we get a repeat of 1990s Jakarta.
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There was a very brief time as Japan went down and China did not yet make its rise obvious in 2005-2010 that South Koreans though they'd become the dominant Asian power and surpass both.

Then China crushed that dream like a bug. Feel sorry for them. They wanted it so bad to stick it to their old imperial master and old suzerain, but in the end, gravity pulled them back as they flew too close to the sun.
 
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SinoAmericanCW

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Iracundus said:
Although they spend about the first 60% talking about the trade war and why they think China will win vs Trump, then they spend the next 20% talking about how China's innovation is used to create a seamless police state. The host said that given the choice between the chaos and uncertainty of Trump's America, and Xi's seamless technological police state it's clear which he'd rather choose. Although he doesn't say the answer, it's all but implied he'd still choose the US (presumably because it's also white). This is the racism creating such a total blind spot such that even if one side is objectively better in every single metric, they'd still choose the other just because they're white (of course they don't say that but use codewords like "freedom" or "democracy").

Then the last 20% is spent talking about China's weaknesses or potential economic issues. This is the final wishful thinking phase of hoping China runs into problems and somehow against the odds fails, even though they concede that if they had to bet on the winner of this US vs China trade war they would bet on China.
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It's incomprehensible to me that they feel they have to make a binary choice between the U.S. and China: they're a large European country, and could conceivably undo the folly of Brexit and rejoin the EU which, if it got its act together, could emerge as a third, autonomous pole of the coming world order.

It's as if they can't even conceive of not having a master anymore.
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
There was a very brief time as Japan went down and China did not yet make its rise obvious in 2005-2010 that South Koreans though they'd become the dominant Asian power and surpass both.

Then China crushed that dream like a bug. Feel sorry for them. They wanted it so bad to stick it to their old imperial master and old suzerain, but in the end, gravity pulled them back as they flew too close to the sun.
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What's worse for Koreans is that while both Japan and Korea have certainly peaked, Japan actually managed to develop its culture and society so that it is essentially to Asia today what France was to Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries. All Korea managed to do was find a niche Koreanizing American pop culture. Lots of people find Korea cool, but nobody finds Korea to be prestigious.

With people already getting beginning to tire of Korean pop culture exports and China on the comeup, their window to be a new Japan has closed and there's nothing they can do but cry like one of those Yoon supporting incels. All cool with me, so long as things with the Chinese community in Korea don't become violent.
 
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Iracundus said:
Although they spend about the first 60% talking about the trade war and why they think China will win vs Trump, then they spend the next 20% talking about how China's innovation is used to create a seamless police state. The host said that given the choice between the chaos and uncertainty of Trump's America, and Xi's seamless technological police state it's clear which he'd rather choose. Although he doesn't say the answer, it's all but implied he'd still choose the US (presumably because it's also white). This is the racism creating such a total blind spot such that even if one side is objectively better in every single metric, they'd still choose the other just because they're white (of course they don't say that but use codewords like "freedom" or "democracy").

Then the last 20% is spent talking about China's weaknesses or potential economic issues. This is the final wishful thinking phase of hoping China runs into problems and somehow against the odds fails, even though they concede that if they had to bet on the winner of this US vs China trade war they would bet on China.
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Maybe its their goto narrative...
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1913043983259082819
 
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"US factory setback for China's Gotion high-tech; will Taiwanese firms step in?"
(How is ta1w4n battery tech? Or they want to buy the factory/tech? Article paywalled)
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US planning to add duties vs China cranes, cargo handling equipments and digital logistocs platform like Logink? (Will CN retaliate to US services export to Cn?)
 

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chlosy said:
Looks like the USA is coaxing/forcing the G7 to join the USA trade war against China. Lots of articles about how China can survive a trade war with the USA. How much pain would it be if it was a trade war with the G7?
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That is disinformation.

There is only a real economic war that is full blown at this point between the United States and China.

In this economic war, everyone expects the United States to stand down within two months, or risk imploding economically, or if that does not happen the Trump 2.0 is most definitely finished.

If the Trump tariffs are not repealed, the inflation is coming for his ass that was kissed by everybody.

Never mind that the Europeans still vaguely remember history and the beggar thy neighbour policies that contributed to the Great Depression, they also do not have the stomach for that today, another trade war.
 
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iewgnem

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Randomuser said:
That's Asian right wingers for you. Good at acting all nationalistic against other asians. But now like dogs in front of the west. Basically caste enforcers.

They are doubling down on the west because otherwise history will not be kind to them.
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Korean culture only exist because it has no self respect and is subservient to power, otherwise China would have wiped them out a thousand years ago.

A culture that worship occupiers will worship any occupier, if they cross the line and bite China, the punishment could see Koreans becoming far more loyal to China than any other nation.
 
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