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Almond98

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ismellcopium said:
Lol Iran doesn't really "dwarf" Taiwan in power, for one they have basically 0 airpower to speak of. The best I can say for them is their missile forces seem better, but tbh it's not clear if they're actually good or just good on paper, or whether they've invested in the other infrastructure you need to make them work well in a war. It's not a question of whether they can resist or prevail against a US/Israeli campaign, but just how much damage they can inflict on the USN in particular while getting pummeled from the air. Unfortunately, I have a fairly high probability mass on a rather lackluster/anticlimactic outcome where their anti-shipping attacks don't see much more success than the Houthis and both sides sue for peace rather quickly after the conflict begins with nobody really achieving anything meaningful.
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Seems like u are really underestimating Iran a lot. Or maybe u just hate them. The only point I agree is they have weak airforce. And they are trying to tackle that issue by purchasing Russia 4th gen fighter jet. Which I know isn't enough. But that's a good start. They also have been upgrading their defense system and as well as missile. All I know is a war against Iran would be more challenging than any war that us has fought. Also it's in our interest that Iran do major damage to America unless you secretly support the US
 
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BillRamengod said:
Are you seriously comparing decades of comprehensive war preparation with a hastily organized airstrike planned in just a few months?
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FairAndUnbiased said:
There's no equivalence because the US isn't located 100 km from Iran and is based on a few islands rather than on a continent. The Persian gulf isn't an open strait. Taiwan doesn't have urban regions inside the mountains nor is it bigger than Ukraine while having land and sea routes to allies.
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iewgnem said:
Are you seriously equating Iran with Taiwan? Have you seen where they are? Where America is? How big Iran is, how big Taiwan is? Or how much weapons China can put onto Taiwan without leaving base, vs how many US can bring to bear?

And that's before you consider Iran is literally almost adjacent to both Russian and China, while Taiwan is a Pacific away from US....
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You are correct that China-Taiwan is not comparable to US-Iran, but not for reasons that you think. The key differences are that (1) the strength disparity between the US and Iran is much greater than that between China and Taiwan and (2) Taiwan would be able to hit back directly at China's mainland whereas Iran has nowhere near the reach required to do likewise to the United States.

The US would be able to deploy and rotate assets on/off Diego Garcia, and while they might not be able to muster as much firepower per unit time as the Chinese could onto Taiwan, the US has the tyranny of distance on their side. The Iranian missile and fighter forces would not be able to strike back. As the conflict progresses, US air and naval forces would be increasingly efficient at eroding Iranian counterattack capabilities while suffering little to no risk of reprisals. Moreover, the US operation does not require landing boots on Iranian soil, which makes such an undertaking much less complicated than a Taiwan scenario.

So you are absolutely right that nobody should be equating Taiwan with Iran; the former would be a much more complicated and potent adversary to deal with, and if the USN already has trouble fighting Iran given all the profound advantages, then the PLAN would do well not to fight a war with Taiwan.

manqiangrexue said:
Most random, loaded comparison ever. Actually, Iran far dwarfs Taiwan in power and size; China's military is a rival to America's with superior tech in some aspect, superior development speed in all aspects. PRC is 100 miles from the ROC while the US is oceans away. You could not have made a more nonsensical statement.
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Iran dwarfs Taiwan in power? China's military is rivalling that of the US?

Once we are back in reality, let's take a look at the numbers.
The IRIAF has some ~300 combat aircraft, of which ~30-40 are the somewhat-modernized F-14. The operative term is "somewhat". The rest of their inventory could be dismissed as obsolete 3rd-generation airframes that wouldn't be of much relevance in a modern war.
The ROCAF has around ~400 combat aircraft, of which ~200 are the F-16V standard uprades & newbuilds. This is almost comparable to the PLAAF's entire J-10C fleet in terms of both quantity and capability. In addition to that, the rest of their fleet are comprised of the F-CK-1 and Mirage 2000, both of which are of the 4th generation and likely more capable than any of Iran's fighters.

Let's not forget about the ROCAF's force multipliers such as its E-2 fleet. Let's not forget that - while Iran has certainly shown its mettle with its array of ballistic weaponry - Taiwan has a large stockpile of long-range supersonic-capable cruise missiles. This is not to mention naval forces.

I see the tyranny of distance as an advange for the US; Diego Garcia is almost 5000 km from Iran - US jets could hit Iran and the latter would not be able to retaliate unless it's against some other US base in the region.
 
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