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Unpopular opinion but I do wish that China could annex Myanmar and actually turn it into a functional state instead of a shithole filled with drugs, scams, crime and gangs that is dragging down all of south-east asia as a whole. Probably won't ever happen though, even though full control of Myanmar offers up the Indian ocean to China.

Full annexation will never happen, but I wonder why does China let neighboring allied countries like NK and Myanmar do whatever they want and turn into pseudo-failed states. Doesn't China have enough influence to strong arm this countries into win-win economical policies that can turn them into the equivalent of Thailand, Vietnam or Laos?
It costs a lot to expand properly. Doesn't mean China can't eventually do it.

But honestly a lot of the idiosyncracies about Myanmar and NK can be pinned on China's chosen geopolitical strategy. The chief strategist Wang Huning doesn't seem to believe in expansionism at all. There is a strategic view which states China should be a high walled castle with wide moat, outside conflicts should be carried out with proxies that only get limited support, allowing the scientists inside the castle to build up much better tech than the "outside".

This viewpoint means that expansionism does not work/is not conductive to growth anymore. Instead, tech and industry are the most dominant methods of increasing national power. In some ways, the theory proves correct, because one could easily argue for example that one DJI would be worth at least 5 Iraq war victories, the Iraq war brought nearly nothing to the US in the end, despite being a perfect example of succesful tactical expansionism on the ground.

So therefore by building a high castle with wide moats and then using proxies outwards, China disrupts her enemies' growth in what matters (economy/innovation) while avoiding the pitfalls of wasteful expansionism.

In theory, there is a point of inflection where China's prosperity makes it so that all nations have to submit, or even so that it's irrelevant if nations submit or not, because the power difference in production, innovation and market share is so large that a nation like Myanmar's output would be a rounding error in comparison.

However, that's the current grand strategy, there's no reason to think it wouldn't change if a new strategist gets put in charge.

There are also good arguments that expansionism can work in China's context, namely how uplifting people from poverty creates massive growth and how the succesful uplifting of the backwards western regions powers the economic boom. One could draw the conclusion that expansionism didn't work for US because of endemic corruption letting US' enemy (China) simply outplay them for control of Iraq later on after the dust settles. And that if US was run competently, they would have gotten great mileage out of the Iraq expansion.

Personally I'm vocally for the creation of a wide China led empire, since I think it would let China continue the same virtuous cycle of uplifting poorer regions using richer regions, this time with China's core acting as the tier 1 region and third world countries acting as the 2nd and 3rd tier regions. The result will be insane, never before seen levels of prosperity in China and fair development opportunities (unlike what happens now) for the third world.

Also, nearly all these nations don't use their resources efficiently and are marred by corruption. By pooling all their resource rights into Beijing's proven competent government, these resources won't sit there and rot, they can be used for megaprojects that brings humanity forward.

I think this vision is a lot more compelling than China as a walled castle.
 
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supercat

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Deal signing won't happen at April 2nd. Could still happen on a later day though

More reports from Reuters and CNN:
CK Hutchison will not sign deal to sell strategic Panama ports next week, sources says
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Panama Canal ports sale has been put on hold by Chinese regulators​

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Free speech you say? Here is free speech in the US: the arrest of anti-Zionist protestor:

New question just dropped. It used to be "but at what cost?". Now it's "what might derail it?"
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FriedButter

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JD Vance Warns There's 'Very Strong Evidence' China, Russia Want Greenland​

Vice President JD Vance criticized Denmark on Friday for what he called an "underinvestment" in Greenland, saying there was "very strong evidence" that Russia and China want the island and access to its resources.

Vance's remarks at Pituffik Space Base in Greenland come as President Donald Trump advocates for a United States takeover of the island.

Greenlandic leaders and residents have sharply protested the Trump administration's overtures and statements calling for the U.S. to annex Greenland.

Shortly before Vance's visit, local media reported that four of the five parties elected to Greenland's parliament agreed to form a new government, banding together amid Trump's threats.

"Our message to Denmark is very simple," Vance said during the visit. "You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland."

"Denmark has not kept pace in devoting the resources necessary to keep this base, to keep our troops, and in my view to keep the people of Greenland safe from a lot of aggressive incursions from Russia, from China, and from other nations."

Secretary of Energy Chris Wright and White House national security adviser Mike Waltz accompanied Vance on his trip.

"Why does Greenland matter so much?" Vance said. "We know that Russia and China and other nations are taking an extraordinary interest in Arctic passageways, Arctic naval routes, and in the minerals of the Arctic territories. We need to ensure America is leading in the Arctic."

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said Friday in Greenland: "We can't just bury our head in the sand—or, in Greenland, bury our head in the snow—and pretend that the Chinese are not interested in this very large landmass. We know that they are."

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen delivered a message to Greenland ahead of Vance's trip, writing on social media: "The attention is overwhelming and the pressure is great. But it is in times like these that you show what you are made of. You have not been cowed. You have stood up for who you are—and you have shown what you stand for. That has my deepest respect."

Reichsleiter JD Vance in Greenland: We have evidences that the Communist Soviets Chinese are massing for an immediate attack on Germany America.

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jiajia99

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Reichsleiter JD Vance in Greenland: We have evidences that the Communist Soviets Chinese are massing for an immediate attack on Germany America.

Rings like a rhythm.
The shit bag doesn’t seem to realize that for all his talk about freedom, his actions up until now is literally destroying it in the USA right now. And he is so aiding in turning the USA into Nazi Germany although this could be a positive in that it will provide China and Russia a chance to show these current Nazis who the real heroes of WW2 are
 

doggydogdo

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It costs a lot to expand properly. Doesn't mean China can't eventually do it.

But honestly a lot of the idiosyncracies about Myanmar and NK can be pinned on China's chosen geopolitical strategy. The chief strategist Wang Huning doesn't seem to believe in expansionism at all. There is a strategic view which states China should be a high walled castle with wide moat, outside conflicts should be carried out with proxies that only get limited support, allowing the scientists inside the castle to build up much better tech than the "outside".

This viewpoint means that expansionism does not work/is not conductive to growth anymore. Instead, tech and industry are the most dominant methods of increasing national power. In some ways, the theory proves correct, because one could easily argue for example that one DJI would be worth at least 5 Iraq war victories, the Iraq war brought nearly nothing to the US in the end, despite being a perfect example of succesful tactical expansionism on the ground.

So therefore by building a high castle with wide moats and then using proxies outwards, China disrupts her enemies' growth in what matters (economy/innovation) while avoiding the pitfalls of wasteful expansionism.

In theory, there is a point of inflection where China's prosperity makes it so that all nations have to submit, or even so that it's irrelevant if nations submit or not, because the power difference in production, innovation and market share is so large that a nation like Myanmar's output would be a rounding error in comparison.

However, that's the current grand strategy, there's no reason to think it wouldn't change if a new strategist gets put in charge.

There are also good arguments that expansionism can work in China's context, namely how uplifting people from poverty creates massive growth and how the succesful uplifting of the backwards western regions powers the economic boom. One could draw the conclusion that expansionism didn't work for US because of endemic corruption letting US' enemy (China) simply outplay them for control of Iraq later on after the dust settles. And that if US was run competently, they would have gotten great mileage out of the Iraq expansion.

Personally I'm vocally for the creation of a wide China led empire, since I think it would let China continue the same virtuous cycle of uplifting poorer regions using richer regions, this time with China's core acting as the tier 1 region and third world countries acting as the 2nd and 3rd tier regions. The result will be insane, never before seen levels of prosperity in China and fair development opportunities (unlike what happens now) for the third world.

Also, nearly all these nations don't use their resources efficiently and are marred by corruption. By pooling all their resource rights into Beijing's proven competent government, these resources won't sit there and rot, they can be used for megaprojects that brings humanity forward.

I think this vision is a lot more compelling than China as a walled castle.
I think this is the plan for the future, like in 20 years. China still has 33% or 1/3 of its population living as poor rural farmworkers, which is 500 million people compared to the 50 million people of Myanmar, and they should be granted better opportunities before China goes to other countries to help. China never turned its back on international socialism though and probably will spread socialism once it has complete dominance in tech and economy.
 

AssassinsMace

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F*ck Greenland! If they're stupid enough to believe China is planning to invade them, it's doesn't serve China's interests to care. That's the only reason JD Vance is bringing it up to scare Greenlanders into letting the US takeover. If it works, then Greenlanders are pretty stupid. China has to get past North and South America and Europe and Africa to get to Greenland and somehow China wants to bother invading Greenland more than anyone else...? There's some stupid white supremacist logic going on there. Is it because of the few white women that makes Greenland so valuable? If rare earths are the excuse for all this... Like I've been saying the US can't process them cheaper than China and that's why they're so-called "rare" and not because they're hard to find. China should really stop shipping all rare earths to the West. The West needs them from China and it's not like they're useless for China. Before the turn of the century, remember the US put rare earths on the blacklist to prevent China from getting it themselves. So do you think if the West doesn't get them from China, they're somehow useless now?
 

FriedButter

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Unpopular opinion but I do wish that China could annex Myanmar and actually turn it into a functional state instead of a shithole filled with drugs, scams, crime and gangs that is dragging down all of south-east asia as a whole. Probably won't ever happen though, even though full control of Myanmar offers up the Indian ocean to China.
I still haven't heard if China is sending the help to Myanmar or not. If they won't send any big team for help, for me that's a continuation of a blunder of Chinese foreign policy to Myanmar. That shithole (Myanmar) is sinking deeper and deeper, you have a failed state at the border who keeps thousands of PRC citizens in scam camps.

Continuation of the current policy is not a blunder. That is the most favourable scenario. Getting directly involved is an strategic blunder. Yes, it is unfortunate for the victims but it is not China duty to spend their blood and treasure to prop up a failing state instead of focusing on themselves. Besides, the only thing you will achieve in Myanmar is potentially weakening China which could be fatal

Myanmar is bigger than Ukraine or Afghanistan while being covered in huge forests. The Indians and Americans will not miss the strategic opportunity to turn Myanmar into China’s Afghanistan. If you think not getting involved is a blunder. Wait until you get deadlocked in a multi year war where thousands of disgruntled crippled veterans return and an increasingly dissatisfied public opinion. Perfectly ripped for Western propaganda and coup operations.
 
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