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plawolf

Lieutenant General
Getting bored in Friday afternoon with tummy full of Chinese food, I would like to try some conspiracy thinking:

The timing of the latest DeepSeek releases.

DeepSeek-V3 was released on December 26th, 2024, which turned out to be the prelude of this whole DeepSeek drama. People were in western holiday season and had plenty of free time. Then on January 20th, 2025 DeepSeek-R1 was released, which was accidentally the inauguration day and 9 days before Chinese New Year. Also accidentally OpenAI and Meta et al. had already announced their new big releases "in early 2025", which up until then was the benchmark for closed LLM model and open LLM model. Now everyone in the world and their grannies are waiting for benchmarking new shiny releases from hyperscalers against this new kid on the block, DeepSeek. In between, there were also meaningful releases from Alibaba Qwen2.5-max, ByteDance Doubao 1.5 pro and Moonshoot Kimi.ai k1.5.

(1) Nobody is talking about Tiktok

(2) Everyone and his aunt is AI expert

(3) Small guys all over the world are coming out defending DeepSeek as an angel of open source

(4) Hyperscalers are uncharacteristically quiet in comparison to their 500B heydays prior to DeepSeek-R1 release

(5) US TV talking heads are actually mild on DeepSeek in comparison to their stance on Tiktok

(6) Some in China said it all happened due to Liang Wen Feng's conviction to open source

(7) Other in China said there some big hands behind this we-are-releasing-this-open-source-model playbook

What am I thinking now? Not much except that hats off to young engineers in China, who are more idealistic and less materialistic than being portrayed in social media. Anyhow, it has become a historical fact that, a private self-funded small tech firm in the beautiful heaven of Hangzhou has altered trajectory of generative AI development during the initial phase of the 4th industrial revolution.

My conspiracy thinking says that all this is not accident......

It would be a mistake to think DeepSeek are just being naive and idealistic here to gift their model to all of humanity.

You need to remember who they are and what their day jobs are. If anyone could have predicted the magnitude of impact DeepSeek would have on the NASAQ, it’s these guys.

They didn’t release DeepSeek fully out of some idealistic naïveté, but because it was a carefully weighed decision to both maximise their own profits from this breakthrough, as well as cause maximum damage to the strong enemy.

If they kept it as a closed book proprietary model, the market impact would have been far far smaller, barely a blip as everyone just shrugged and moved on since the market would expect the western AI oligarchs to do their thing and got DeepSeek banned in America, Europe and everywhere else they can and massively limit the market DeepSeek can operate in, which in turn will also massively limit its potential revenue. Add in the inevitable massed and sustained cyberattacks and they would be luck to make any sort of meaningful profits from it.

If they shorted NVIDIA and other obvious targets’ stocks before the release, DeepSeek could have made them billions overnight.

Given the choice between pressing send and making billions overnight or spending then next decade fighting the collective west to carve out some tiny market share to maybe make a few million, what would you choose? Kneecapping America’s collective hyper scale AI industry on the way is just a nice bonus.
 

d3dx9

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Oh those mfers really indulged themselves throughout the 90s, tut tutting with their false concern over China and Chinese people. I make sure that they take account for their actions.

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Steve hsu has some good stuff on his manifold podcasts, and Carl zha as well

Geopolitics that probably falls similar to view of members here
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Thank you all for recommending these YouTube channel
 

horse

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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Noah Smith. JD Vance probably read too many Eastern philosophy books during his law school days. Turns out MAGA is just Confucianism in disguise.

Okay, got to give some credit to Prof. Smith, he sort of knew.

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The Great Learning.

It was a chapter in the Book of Rites/Ritual. Then someone later made it into a classical book on its own.

1.
大學之道,在明明德,在親民,在止於至善。知止而后有定,定而后能靜,靜而后能安,安而后能慮,慮而后能得。物有本末,事有終始,知所先後,則近道矣。

2.
古之欲明明德於天下者,先治其國;欲治其國者,先齊其家;欲齊其家者,先修其身;欲修其身者,先正其心;欲正其心者,先誠其意;欲誠其意者,先致其知,致知在格物。物格而後知至,知至而後意誠,意誠而後心正,心正而後身修,身修而後家齊,家齊而後國治,國治而後天下平。自天子以至於庶人,壹是皆以修身為本。其本亂而末治者否矣,其所厚者薄,而其所薄者厚,未之有也!此謂知本,此謂知之至也。

It continues, what Ttump's vice-president is talking about is verse 2.
 

GulfLander

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"WhatsApp says journalists and civil society members were targets of Israeli spyware

[...]Messaging app said it had ‘high confidence’ some users were targeted and ‘possibly compromised’ by Paragon Solutions spyware[...]Nearly 100 journalists and other members of civil society using
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, the popular messaging app owned by Meta, were targeted by spyware owned by Paragon Solutions, an Israeli maker of hacking software, the company alleged on Friday.[...]Paragon has a US office in Chantilly, Virginia. The company has faced recent scrutiny after Wired magazine in October reported that it had entered into a $2m contract with the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s homeland security investigations division.[...]
The division reportedly issued a stop-work order for the contract to verify whether it complied with a Biden administration executive order that restricted the use of spyware by the federal government. The Trump administration has revoked dozens of the Biden administration’s executive orders in its first two weeks in office, but the 2023 order, which prohibited the use of spyware that posed a risk to national security remains in effect.[...] WhatsApp said it had sent Paragon a “cease and desist” letter and that it was exploring its legal options. WhatsApp said the alleged attacks had been disrupted in December and that it was not clear how long the targets may have been under threat.[...]
“WhatsApp has disrupted a spyware campaign by Paragon that targeted a number of users including journalists and members of civil society. We’ve reached out directly to people who we believe were affected. This is the latest example of why spyware companies must be held accountable for their unlawful actions. WhatsApp will continue to protect people’s ability to communicate privately,” a company spokesperson said.

Paragon Solutions declined to comment.

A person close to the company told the Guardian that Paragon had 35 government customers, that all of them could be considered democratic, and that Paragon did not do business with countries, including some democracies, that have previously been accused of abusing spyware. The person said that included Greece, Poland, Hungary, Mexico and India."

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