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manqiangrexue said:

To because the Saudis were so weak, they couldn't let incompetent India stay together? LOL Not their call but interesting theory on Arab weakness.

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Lol. yeah sure it was not there call. Japan that only thrived in American system due to Arabs (saved decades in development for Asia) sent its first Toyota LC to Pakistan and than Saudi. The same people arranged the meeting of US president with Saudi King who supported division of India.
American president of 150m people and fully independent in natural resources was meeting King of only 3million to discuss creation of Jewish state in an area control by British/Ottoman empires. that area has nothing to do with Saudi. This is called Soft Power.

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On the 87th National Day, Sabq reviews the story of the first meeting between Abdulaziz and American Commander Roosevelt in 1945 on board an American ship. This meeting drew the map of alliances in the Middle East and laid the foundations for historical relations between the two countries, which were consolidated over decades.

He continues: The most important discussion they had at length was about the Palestinian issue and the planting of Jews in Palestine as an alternative country for the Jews. At the end of the meeting, they reached an agreement whereby America would provide military training and American support to the then-emerging Saudi Arabia in exchange for oil and political support in the region.

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In 1954, the hand-me-down ‘Toyota Jeep BJ’ tag was replaced (Willys had since trademarked the name ‘Jeep’) with the descriptively memorable name Land Cruiser. This helped launch the vehicle into export markets, with Pakistan receiving the first shipment later that year and Saudi Arabia following in 1955.

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manqiangrexue said:

That proves nothing. That's just a fact that 2 countries that couldn't develop their own fighters had to buy them. Except today India can at least make some low level ones with imported engines and the Saudis still can't make a kite.

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Saudis untill recently had population smaller than Sweden ( A country that built fighters with external parts and engines). Comparing it with population of 1.4b having benefit of colonial education of hundreds of years.

iewgnem said:

Re-activating ISIS and opening a new Syria front isn't that surprising given NATO's collapsing forces in Ukraine and the hole Israel is in.
We'll see how these guys do this time against a Russia with a massively ramped up military industrial complex and years of experience fighting much better NATO equipment head on.
One thing is for sure, if ISIS fail they won't get to fall back to Idlib and ask for ceasefire, the problem will be solved in totality this time.
Considering the west still pretend they're not Al-Qaeda / ISIS allies this also provide an interesting vector for China to openly arm Russia.

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I think otherwise. I believe Syria and the surrounding region is in deep shit this time.

Index said:

There's nothing special about either Arab or Jews.

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Saudis and Jews are just getting boners after getting a state of their own to rule after thousands of years. Jews were stateless for 2000+ years, and Arabs were ruled by Turks, Kurds, and Persians since the 10th century. Jai Hinds are in the same boat, getting superpower boners - ruling independently for the first time in some 1100 years. A thousand years in subjugation is bound to make you delusional.

I know these types of links aren't allowed on the forum but jw for information purposes if anybody knows WTF this is?

IDF killed a guy in Gaza and there is smoke billowing out of his body. What kind of munition does this?
Smoke grenades inside body or inside vest detonated?

_killuminati_ said:

I know these types of links aren't allowed on the forum but jw for information purposes if anybody knows WTF this is?

IDF killed a guy in Gaza and there is smoke billowing out of his body. What kind of munition does this?

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Smoke grenades inside body or inside vest detonated?

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Inside of pager inside of vest lol??

supercat said:

Never underestimate the US!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862175248755384376

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Next to NYC Chinatown district. Who cares what the Chinese-Americans feels or thinks?

_killuminati_ said:

I think otherwise. I believe Syria and the surrounding region is in deep shit this time.

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This time Al-Qaeda/ISIS is fighting SDF and Kurds while Syrian Army fell back with minimal loses, all while Russia bombs them with impunity from the air using battle optimized weapons from Ukraine, so that's different from last time when Syrian Army had to fight SDF+Kurds+ISIS at the same time and Russia hasn't fought anyone for years.

Putting new pieces into play comes with the risk that you could lose that piece, and then some.

ACuriousPLAFan said:

"B-b-but that still counts as our GDP! We still have by far the biggest and most powerful economy in the world! Muricaaaa!"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862637482757824626

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If I wanted to be generous to the Americans, I would liken these OF thots to the courtesans of the Tang Dynasty who similarly amassed an army of admirers; the only difference is that Tang dynasty courtesans didn’t show ”bobs and vagene” for $5.99/month and didn’t necessarily sleep with clients.

iewgnem said:

This time Al-Qaeda/ISIS is fighting SDF and Kurds while Syrian Army fell back with minimal loses, all while Russia bombs them with impunity from the air using battle optimized weapons from Ukraine, so that's different from last time when Syrian Army had to fight SDF+Kurds+ISIS at the same time and Russia hasn't fought anyone for years.

Putting new pieces into play comes with the risk that you could lose that piece, and then some.

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The worrisome part is that there's still so many Syrians in love with fanaticism, Assad was not able to fix his population during the time of peace. What hope is there for the future?

I do think it's good that kurds are being fucked, they're the no1 US and Israel proxy, while ISIS is thoroughly a turk project. Russia needs to get rid of kurds from Syria's oil, that way, NATO will no longer have access to that particular oil source, worsening Europe's prospects further.

I'm almost for China to help here. We finally have the excuse to intervene to delete US occupied oilfields. If you just let HTS and ISIS run over Kurdistan first, you can then go in and fuck everything up from the air, under the pretext of fighting ISIS. Plus the whole global population will consider China a hero for fighting ISIS, nobody likes them, not even US bots (they're instructed to give them a brief support limelight now, but will have to stop once US regular society catches on). ISIS has primitive tactics that will allow Russian and Chinese firepower to slaughter them en masse, making our fighting forces seem more competent and giving them a positive reputation.

Assad just needs to make a call.

Turkey's ambition can, as you say, risk lead a backlash into a ruin of US grand strategy.

_killuminati_ said:

Who the hell are these guys? Towering figures? Lol. Ispahani was ambassador to US. Other two are unknown. The actual towering figures, Jinnah, Bogra, Suhrawardy clearly didn't show up to the welcoming.

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They may not consider agents as towering figures. Remember Saudis policies decades before World War 2 of completely bypassing Europeans and there preference for Japanese in business.
see this picture .from i think 1953 Queen cornation. that tall Saudi prince standing behind a short Japanese prince. Saudi was actually supposed to stand in front but since the person was Japanese he choose to stand behind.

_killuminati_ said:

I still haven't received a proper answer to the question of why Arabs were so weak to prevent a nonsense fracturing of the state. UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, Saudis.. all Arabs, same culture, same religion, same language, same values, yet... smashed and broken up the British.

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your question is silly to put it mildly. Saudis shake continents and sent Soviet communism into dust bin and you think they cannot force these small countries into one Unit. They just want to show there Soft Power and respect for these Royal families. otherwise Yemen example is right there and Saudi military intervention without regime change in Bahrain.
Saudis can easily overun Syria as that country is Baathist/Communist and Leftist supported (shia) but they have certain regard for Russian muslims thats why they want they solved this problem eventually.

Index said:

The worrisome part is that there's still so many Syrians in love with fanaticism, Assad was not able to fix his population during the time of peace. What hope is there for the future?

I do think it's good that kurds are being fucked, they're the no1 US and Israel proxy, while ISIS is thoroughly a turk project. Russia needs to get rid of kurds from Syria's oil, that way, NATO will no longer have access to that particular oil source, worsening Europe's prospects further.

I'm almost for China to help here. We finally have the excuse to intervene to delete US occupied oilfields. If you just let HTS and ISIS run over Kurdistan first, you can then go in and fuck everything up from the air, under the pretext of fighting ISIS. Plus the whole global population will consider China a hero for fighting ISIS, nobody likes them, not even US bots (they're instructed to give them a brief support limelight now, but will have to stop once US regular society catches on). ISIS has primitive tactics that will allow Russian and Chinese firepower to slaughter them en masse, making our fighting forces seem more competent and giving them a positive reputation.

Assad just needs to make a call.

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If Syrians are that vulnerable they wouldn't have survived the combined assault of ISIS, SDF and Kurds, 8 years wasn't that long ago.

Allowing the war to freeze was clearly a mistake, which informs Ukraine's future as well, but now that everything's put into play again, it's both a crisis and an opportunity since the war was never frozen in a satisfactory state.

China is already helping Russia to an extent that "North Korea" is able to outproduce the collective west, so while I wouldn't rule out China using Syria as an excuse to provide Russia with attack drones, I think a lot of people are forgetting that compared to NATO armed, manned and supplied Ukraine, ISIS is very much not the same calibre if Russia cares enough to clean up Syria for good.