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plawolf

plawolf

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iewgnem said:
I don't think you can model this trade war the same as 2018.
In 2018 Chinese industry was objectively not as dominant as it is now
More importantly back then China didn't know how much power itself was, or how weak and incompetent western countries turned out to be.

After 6 years of failed and forgotten trade war, China now knows just how much power the west actually has and how much power itself has, the west is this time going into the trade war with an inflation crisis, and China is going into it with 4 years of dual-circulation, not to mention this time China has almost elusive RMB/non-USD trade with Russia and much of the global south.

China has actively eliminated export rebate on key industrial intermediates to raise prices, and and has been adding more and more products to export control over the last 2 years. So if Americans think they can negotate the same way they did last time and think China cares about maintaining exports to them, they're probably going to have a very bad time.
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More than that, in 2018, the Chinese economy was by design, massively integrated and co-dependant with the collective west. That was meant to be China’s insurance policy to ensure the west does not turn on her, since the west will do as much damage to itself as it does to China with any trade or hot wars. But that cuts both ways. The primary reason China’s responses were so ‘weak’ back then was because any retaliation China did was going to hurt China as much as America.

Since then, while the west has talked about de-coupling and de-risking, China has quietly done it.

This means that China has far far more ammo to use against Trump 2.0 in a trade war compared to last time. And unlike last time, these actions are not going to damage China in their use.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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plawolf said:
More than that, in 2018, the Chinese economy was by design, massively integrated and co-dependant with the collective west. That was meant to be China’s insurance policy to ensure the west does not turn on her, since the west will do as much damage to itself as it does to China with any trade or hot wars. But that cuts both ways. The primary reason China’s responses were so ‘weak’ back then was because any retaliation China did was going to hurt China as much as America.

Since then, while the west has talked about de-coupling and de-risking, China has quietly done it.

This means that China has far far more ammo to use against Trump 2.0 in a trade war compared to last time. And unlike last time, these actions are not going to damage China in their use.
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This is one of many reasons I'm so glad Trump is back as US president. Another is that during his administration he will see Huawei overcome the blockade he started with the first Chinese EUV chip. Yet another is the parade of self-owns America and its vassals are going to suffer.
 
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iewgnem

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plawolf said:
More than that, in 2018, the Chinese economy was by design, massively integrated and co-dependant with the collective west. That was meant to be China’s insurance policy to ensure the west does not turn on her, since the west will do as much damage to itself as it does to China with any trade or hot wars. But that cuts both ways. The primary reason China’s responses were so ‘weak’ back then was because any retaliation China did was going to hurt China as much as America.

Since then, while the west has talked about de-coupling and de-risking, China has quietly done it.

This means that China has far far more ammo to use against Trump 2.0 in a trade war compared to last time. And unlike last time, these actions are not going to damage China in their use.
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It's funny that if you search Dual Circulation on Google, the Wiki quote it pins at top literally says "Dual circulation involves making the domestic market to be less dependent on external fluctuations and shocks while also making the country's economy more indispensable to the outside world."

It's as though nobody in the west has enough IQ points to understand what this means.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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You know why Americans who hate TikTok hate TikTok? Americans like to brag about their individuality meaning they're saying everyone else are not individuals like how they think Chinese are automatons. It offends them that Chinese created an algorithm that figures out how they think. If they were "individuals" like they brag they are, TikTok wouldn't be able to figure them out.
 
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iewgnem

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AssassinsMace said:

You know why Americans who hate TikTok hate TikTok? Americans like to brag about their individuality meaning they're saying everyone else are not individuals like how they think Chinese are automatons. It offends them that Chinese created an algorithm that figures out how they think. If they were "individuals" like they brag they are, TikTok wouldn't be able to figure them out.
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Americans dont have mental capacity high enough to think that deep, most dont even have the mental capacity to think about the implications of China curating news for 2/3 of their population.

The ones who dont like TikTok only do so because they're told to think so, and Americans are trained from birth to only think what they're told, hence their high rate of cult/mega church fellowing.

For the few people who give out thought instructions, they themselves only dislike TikTok because they cant control it, give them a taste of illusion of influence, as Trump and "manosphere" got, and they embrace it with no understanding of who has the real power
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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iewgnem said:
Americans dont have mental capacity high enough to think that deep, most dont even have the mental capacity to think about the implications of China curating news for 2/3 of their population.

The ones who dont like TikTok only do so because they're told to think so, and Americans are trained from birth to only think what they're told, hence their high rate of cult/mega church fellowing.

For the few people who give out thought instructions, they themselves only dislike TikTok because they cant control it, give them a taste of illusion of influence, as Trump and "manosphere" got, and they embrace it with no understanding of who has the real power
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I hear Americans brag about their individuality all the time. How hard is it for them to think that Chinese are mindless robots? That's saying they're not mindless robots. It doesn't require any deep thinking. That's why also how Westerners think they get to make decisions for everyone else because they can't think for themselves. Those who hate TikTok are afraid it will manipulate people against their will.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
I hear Americans brag about their individuality all the time. How hard is it for them to think that Chinese are mindless robots? That's saying they're not mindless robots. It doesn't require any deep thinking. That's why also how Westerners think they get to make decisions for everyone else because they can't think for themselves. Those who hate TikTok are afraid it will manipulate people against their will.
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I can't speak for most actual American civilians, but they're run by a government and spoken for online by bots that both act like mindless robots hellbent on destroying China.

If those are the people that control them, then too bad, no matter what the actual "little guys" think, we gotta teach them a lesson until they overthrow those mindless robots and install some actual human rulers we can talk to. The doping up, deindustrialization, povertization and full society confrontation with NATO must progress until the population of NATO does this.
 
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iewgnem

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AssassinsMace said:
I hear Americans brag about their individuality all the time. How hard is it for them to think that Chinese are mindless robots? That's saying they're not mindless robots. It doesn't require any deep thinking. That's why also how Westerners think they get to make decisions for everyone else because they can't think for themselves. Those who hate TikTok are afraid it will manipulate people against their will.
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They brag about individuality because they're told to think so, they dont actually understand in any way or form what individuality means, and you need to understand what individuality means to know the connection between TikTok's algorithms and its relation to their individuality. Conversly if they did know the connection, they would see themselves as automontons everytime they open the app, and they clearly dont.
 
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