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EU is increasingly "frustrated". Lots of threats. Also first time I am hearing that the EU may use its law to block CATL's investment in Hungary
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EU-China Summit: the trust deficit threatening trade and diplomacy​

  • Beijing and Brussels are marking 20 years of their strategic partnership but two are odds over Chinese industrial subsidies and a blockade of a member state
  • The differences are clouding prospects for a leaders’ meeting where the only deliverable may be the talks themselves
Two weeks out from a crucial summit in Beijing, frustration is mounting in Brussels that China is not taking EU concerns on trade and geopolitics seriously.
Trade tensions are threatening to bubble over, as the bloc considers action against Chinese subsidies of electric vehicles, wind turbines, medical technology and solar equipment.
European Union leaders rail against overcapacity in the Chinese economy which they fear will be exported to Europe, while rumours swirl around the use of the new foreign subsidies regulation to stymie Chinese battery giant CATL’s massive investments in Hungary. And serious concerns persist about China’s close ties to Russia.


EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:
“Trust is not built with actions such as blocking all trade with Lithuania. Trust is not built by broadly formulated export controls on key materials that are essential for the green transition, that are formulated in a very broad manner with very non-clear security justifications.”


EU trade Was would be quite funny IMO. It would be the final nail in the coffin for them
 

ansy1968

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EU is increasingly "frustrated". Lots of threats. Also first time I am hearing that the EU may use its law to block CATL's investment in Hungary
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EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:



EU trade Was would be quite funny IMO. It would be the final nail in the coffin for them
Well Bro, Borrell frustration cause the Chinese don't take them seriously, Just ask Cursula Von der Lying and her VIP treatment. ;)
 

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The version of the Hong Kong handover I read was it was on the heels of the Falklands War when negotiations over the handover were to begin and the British were all hawkish taunting about keeping Hong Kong and breaking the treaty. Deng Xiaoping said to the British when it's 1997, the Chinese will be entering the city no matter what. The British testicles were cut-off and they went into talks. Before that Hong Kong was only known for cheap crappy products. The British wanted to turn Hong Kong into a poison pill for China hence when they first talked about democracy when they never entertained it before and also opening Hong Kong up financially. So don't believe the bull that the British are so proper that they believe in the rule of law and they cared about democracy for Hong Kong when they were in control.

Yeah, exactly.

That is why these pro-democracy Hong Kongers and anti-China Hong Kongers are just sell outs, or the frog in the well.

The former no one can trust, the latter supremely naive.
 

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EU is increasingly "frustrated". Lots of threats. Also first time I am hearing that the EU may use its law to block CATL's investment in Hungary
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EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:



EU trade Was would be quite funny IMO. It would be the final nail in the coffin for them
Fu also clashed with top EU trade officials over subsidies. He dismissed EU concerns that China was exporting the overcapacity in its manufacturing sector, a charge angled by officials, businesses and economists.

“Chinese companies selling cars in Europe does not by itself signify overcapacity … if finding an overseas market can be interpreted as overcapacity domestically, what are the European companies doing in the Chinese market?” Fu said.

“For instance, Mercedes have been selling cars to China for decades. So are you saying that there is an overcapacity on their part? They are selling cars because they have overcapacity domestically? I don’t think that logic stands.”

Fu had to spell it out for the retards in the EU what happens if the EU starts a trade war with China. I'm glad EU wants to follow the path of Comrade Trump.
 

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EU is increasingly "frustrated". Lots of threats. Also first time I am hearing that the EU may use its law to block CATL's investment in Hungary
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EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:



EU trade Was would be quite funny IMO. It would be the final nail in the coffin for them
It's amazing how they act like petulant manchilds instead of putting their head down and work on the problems itself they seem to be obsessed with face this is what happens when you pretend to be righteous but deep down still believe in yourself to be superior it's a bitter pill to swallow and unlike Chinese they're too selfish and greedy to be patient and eat bitterness for greater good
 

Jamie28

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EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:

Chinese officials could reply that trust is not built with actions such as flirts with chinese secessionists, a blanket ban on chinese telco equipment manufacturers based on unsubstantiated allegiations of spying, weaponization of chipmaking gear, sanctions on chinese officials on made up genocide accusations and so on, but chinese politics and diplomacy is just too refined to lower themselves at the european clown level.
 

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EU trade official rumbling about some stuff. He should direct his anger at the US instead:



EU trade Was would be quite funny IMO. It would be the final nail in the coffin for them
Once Russia takes over Ukraine, I think it's time for BRICS or SCO to make Hungary an offer they can't refuse. Authoritarian Brussels think it can make the rules. But I sure the Hungarian people probably long for freedom from Brussels rule.
 

DavidChou

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Chinese officials could reply that trust is not built with actions such as flirts with chinese secessionists, a blanket ban on chinese telco equipment manufacturers based on unsubstantiated allegiations of spying, weaponization of chipmaking gear, sanctions on chinese officials on made up genocide accusations and so on, but chinese politics and diplomacy is just too refined to lower themselves at the european clown level.
I understand the sentiment but what you actually don't want to do is give them an opportunity to repeat all their others lies.

IOW, don't give them an opening. Keep it anodyne. Just like corporate communications written in corporatese to an irate customer who's in the wrong...you don't apologize but no need to give them yet more opportunities to spew the rest of their lies.

Remember that we're all infested with thr Westoid mind-virus and so we think we must "stand up" and "give 'em a piece of our minds" but it's actually a delicate dance going on here, especially now with Gaza going on; you look reasonable by not getting bogged down in an argument.

It's like Maya Angelou's advice about "ignoring," so to speak, racist accusations (or as Eamon de Valera wrote, defeat the British Empire by ignoring it), which are hurled out not to engage in an discussion but to drain your energy responding to constant nonsense -- which, incidentally, careful observers have noted to be Trump's own m.o., nonstop b.s. like a missile swarm overwhelming the rational mind.

No, it's not satisfying but China needs to look like the Big Dog ignoring the little chihuahuas.
 

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Germany to terminate energy price brakes – finance minister​

Limits on electricity and gas prices will not be extended until March 2024 as previously planned, but will expire at the end of this year, Deutschlandfunk radio station has cited Finance Minister Christian Lindner as saying in an interview to be aired on Sunday.

“As of December 31 of this year the Economic and Stabilization Fund will be closed,” Lindner said. “There will be no more payouts from this. The electricity and gas price brakes will also be terminated.”

Lindner did not clarify whether energy support would be provided via the regular budget in 2024. The financial support scheme was introduced to protect households and businesses from soaring prices of gas and electricity after Germany, along with many other EU member states, opted to slash energy imports from Russia after the outbreak of the military conflict in Ukraine.

Earlier this month, the European Commission called on Berlin to phase out its price caps as soon as possible.

The decision comes days after the German Constitutional Court blocked the federal government's move to transfer €60 billion ($66 billion) from funds initially earmarked to tackle the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, to other projects.
 
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