Oh dear, some ones yahoo is going to shrink a few millimeters by the end because they thought they can freeze the fight in Russia, ding dong China and then return to ding dong Russia after that without realising that common sense dictates that no, freezing conflict will not happen, USA can turn around and try to ding ding China but Russia having been ding dong by the USA since the fall of the Soviet Union reserves the right to back door ding ding the USA so hard that NYC might have a serious change in architecture due to extreme amount of property damage for (I’ll let people interpret for themselves here). Really did the USA think could get away with there stupid sh!t like they did with Afghanistan and seriously, modern monetary theory doesn’t work at all, otherwise why did Yellen go to China recently even though her negotiation skills suck big ding dong
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There was no NSL law in place so MSS can't do anything even if they knew. Now with NSL law, they can pre-empt everything before it gets started. That's the difference between pre and post NSL, not the performance of MSS. China respects HK autonomy and the Basic Law, surprising I know.
Fundamentally the 1C2S policy is a recognition of a contract signed under duress. I don't see England's suzerignity over HK as legitimate and neither should any Chinese person. If a thief steals something from you at gunpoint and you take it back by brandishing a bigger gun, there's no need to negotiate with them on how you intend to use it.
I agree, China's unilateral imposition of NSL on HK is necessary, because national interest is supreme than letting this little fun experiment of self-governance run afoul any longer. (HK repeated failed to pass NSL itself)
China freely interprets the contract with UK, since the contract is only as good as it's backed by gunboat diplomacy as matters of sovereignty goes. UK can kiss China's middle finger if it doesn't like it.
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There were some things that were unavoidable in hindsight. It couldn't be helped HK residents overall did have a different mindset due to having been under British rule for so long. It couldn't be helped that economically and in terms of living standards Mainland only recently caught up, so the residents had an ingrained superiority complex. And above all, the main driver of discontent which was the city's property values, which certainly couldn't have been helped not least due to the understanding the city was a part of China but "self-governing."
About the only area of discontent that could've been mitigated in my view was the misbehavior of Mainland Chinese tourists to the city. But in the grand scheme of things, as stated earlier, there was an understanding Hong Kong was to be left to its own devices despite being nominally a part of China. The discontent festered until rebellion broke out and that's just the shitty reality of statecraft, every big state no matter how tight of a grip they have on things has to deal with outbursts of discontent every once in a while.
In which case the main area that deserves scrutiny is how the discontent is dealt with and I'm sure the accepted narrative is that at first it went very poorly especially with the defeat of pro-China candidates in the district councel elections and then was quickly squashed with the NSL. Now China's in firm control, the leaders of the HK movement are either incarcerated or abroad, and the city is back to normal. So that's that, time for bigger fish to fry.
Having HKers run wild like in the is an object lesson for clear minded mainlanders of the danger of “democrazy”.
kwaigonegin
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I know NSL was not received well by most of the intl. community but what about the average HK resident?
antiterror13
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What did you mean of Int community? did you mean the US and their lapdogs? All countries have similar NSL, see the UK now even stronger than HK's NSL