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The Indian State of Manipur Is on the Verge of Civil War. Modi Hasn't Said a Word About It​


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Manipur: Murders and mayhem tearing apart an Indian state​


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Government rejects EU parliament move to discuss Manipur situation

Manipur issue ‘toally internal’ to India, says Foreign Secretary, as MEPs criticise government, BJP for violence


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Wow has the anglos turned on india, their favorite sepoy and their designated meat magnet for PLA bullets? What gives? I think the anglos can no longer tolerate india double faced dealings and demand an end to relationship with russia and even possibly an exit from SCO? Anyway great news for China
 

supercat

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What should China do to make sure the US in the indo pafic cannot be an issue and prevent a changlle to China? it seems like the US wants to more and more make sure China cannot peacefully do reunifaction with Taiwan and to contatin China and to prevent our growth. so what do you think China should do in response and if this is an issue for my motherland. we cannot let the US and its allies contatin or stop us from being a thriving country so they can make us end up like Japan. sorry for my long speech, i am just worried about the future of my country and what China should do to make sure it does not have an affect.
China is not USSR, no one can possibly contain her. The US has few options except tech war and building more bases. All China has to do is keep developing.

Alarming Navy Intel Slide Warns Of China’s 200 Times Greater Shipbuilding Capacity​

The Office of Naval Intelligence is sounding the alarm about the huge gap in U.S. and Chinese shipbuilding capacity and its implications.
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Wow has the anglos turned on india, their favorite sepoy and their designated meat magnet for PLA bullets? What gives? I think the anglos can no longer tolerate india double faced dealings and demand an end to relationship with russia and even possibly an exit from SCO? Anyway great news for China
Actually, you should observe the silence of Americans in the debate. It's Europeans pushing the concern, because Europeans aren't happy about India's behavior towards Russia and they also don't care as much about using India against China.

The US is treating India like an ally and deliberately deemphasizing the violence happening in India, like they always hide anything bad their allies do. The silence of mainstream American media, politicians, and the lack of support for the minorities by American institutions is very obvious in this regard.

By the way, the Naga and Kuki minorities that are the target of this violence, are both Sino-Tibetan groups with deep roots to Burmese, Tibetans, and Han Chinese. So while it is being cast as a religious war between Hindu and Christians in Western media, it is also a race war of sorts.
 
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coolgod

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Actually, you should observe the silence of Americans in the debate. It's Europeans pushing the concern, because Europeans aren't happy about India's behavior towards Russia and they also don't care as much about using India against China.

The US is treating India like an ally and deliberately deemphasizing the violence happening in India, like they always hide anything bad their allies do. The silence of mainstream American media, politicians, and the lack of support for the minorities by American institutions is very obvious in this regard.

By the way, the Naga and Kuki minorities that are the target of this violence, are both Sino-Tibetan groups with deep roots to Burmese, Tibetans, and Han Chinese. So while it is being cast as a religious war between Hindu and Christians in Western media, it is also a race war of sorts.
No, the US is also emphasizing the conflict in Manipur. See US ambassador's recent comments
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and the recent Time piece
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CNN did a piece before also
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So has the VOA
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No, the US is also emphasizing the conflict in Manipur. See US ambassador's recent comments
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and the recent Time piece
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I don't think that constitutes emphasis.

Only the US ambassador to India has made a comment and even then, it's not a criticism of any sort:

"On a question pertaining to Manipur violence, US ambassador to India
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who was in Kolkata on Thursday said the US is ready to assist in any way if asked to resolve the crisis and the northeast can't prosper without peace. Noting that this is an internal matter of India, Eric Garcetti said the US does not have any strategic concerns but it has human concerns. The comment drew a response from Congress MP Manish Tewari who said it is very rare for a US envoy to make a statement "of this nature about the internal affairs of India"."


Observe how this is considered a rare comment, how it specifically says "this is an internal matter of India," and how it's an offer of support & assistance, without any judgment.

If this happened in China you can bet the US would be saying "we condemn the attempted genocide of minorities by Chinese security forces and call upon the Chinese authorities to respect the right of the Naga and the Kuki for self-determination!"

The Voice of America news article is equally sympathetic to the Indians. Just look at the title and how it's cast the central Indian government as the peace makers. Can you imagine it doing so for China in any ethnic conflict?
 

coolgod

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I don't think that constitutes emphasis.

Only the US ambassador to India has made a comment and even then, it's not a criticism of any sort:

"On a question pertaining to Manipur violence, US ambassador to India
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who was in Kolkata on Thursday said the US is ready to assist in any way if asked to resolve the crisis and the northeast can't prosper without peace. Noting that this is an internal matter of India, Eric Garcetti said the US does not have any strategic concerns but it has human concerns. The comment drew a response from Congress MP Manish Tewari who said it is very rare for a US envoy to make a statement "of this nature about the internal affairs of India"."


Observe how this is considered a rare comment, how it specifically says "this is an internal matter of India," and how it's an offer of support & assistance, without any judgment.

If this happened in China you can bet the US would be saying "we condemn the attempted genocide of minorities by Chinese security forces and call upon the Chinese authorities to respect the right of the Naga and the Kuki for self-determination!"

The Voice of America news article is equally sympathetic to the Indians. Just look at the title and how it's cast the central Indian government as the peace makers. Can you imagine it doing so for China in any ethnic conflict?
Do you know what it means when the US says they are ready to assist to resolve a conflict? ;)
I agree the US can use a harsher tone when describing the conflict, that is saved for later, depending on India's performance in the G20.

For combat footage in Manipur, please check out this thread
 
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By the way, the Naga and Kuki minorities that are the target of this violence, are both Sino-Tibetan groups with deep roots to Burmese, Tibetans, and Han Chinese. So while it is being cast as a religious war between Hindu and Christians in Western media, it is also a race war of sorts.
Note that the Meitei language spoken by most of the Hindus in Manipur is also a Sino-Tibetan language. In fact, ~95% of the population of Manipur are speakers of Sino-Tibetan languages.
 
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How in the crazy ding dong can they possibly do that when the greens pretty much destroyed the nations industrial capacity out of sheer live for the American shaft. Maybe if the Germanys are willing to toss the collective lots of these parasites into the rice Rhine that maybe they can work to fix things because we all know that the USA is responsible for all of the problems that Germany right now due to all of these traitors in the German government. Not saying Hitler is good or anything, but a Hitler doing purge of the entire German establishment might not be such a bad thing given how utterly stupid they are right now. I mean with the way German is right now king with Europe, they are literally making Nazism main stream and no one see the irony. I mean look at France and all they crap they can about China while they are introducing draconian measures none stop to cope with a problem they refuse to address for decades

As far as China is concerned, it has to look more at the forest instead of the trees.

However, must keep tabs on the trees from time to time.

France, under Macron, over a course of around 2 years, said NATO is brain dead, visited China immediately after the lifting of the pandemic causing controversy inside Europe with his general comments on the world situation, and last week blocked some NATO initiative with Japan or somewhere.

Germany, under Merkel and Scholtz, has more or less the same China policy, which is to frown upon the human rights question, and keep on trucking with the trade. The Chinese economy will double again in around 20 years. Like heck the Germans are not wanting to be front and center of that. They will be there. That is why that new strategy is a nothing-burger from the Germans. They will not jeopardize that lucrative future for German business.

Macron thinking out loud, and Scholtz indecisiveness which is really an effortless attempt to uphold the status quo and maintain current trends, France and Germany has a China policy that is a clear break from the US lead alliance China policy.

This France and Germany policy divergence, will only get wider as the Chinese economy grows bigger.

Everyone should be aware of this dynamic.

That is why there are so many China will collapse stories.

The Americans and their minions, do not want to lose France and Germany from their orbit into a Chinese orbit.

That is the play. France and Germany want to be a participant in the doubling of the Chinese economy. If this drives a wedge between them and the United States, that is not something China should be overly concerned with. That was the plan for the PRC, development.
 
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