I think the policy towards China is bi-partisan, doesnt matter if its dems or reps. Biden continued and expanded all of trumps policy. Decision has been made to make China the next generational villain. Doesnt matter who is running the circus.
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Seems like Pence 2.0. But it was always going to be like that, the establishment always wants control over Trump.
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Worry about your own society, don't worry about China's.
Good question:
Oh yeah, of course!
I wouldn't say either side is intended to reach a deal. China doesn't care if TSMC is brought in together with Taiwan, remember PLA chief of staff Liang Guanglie once said? 宁可台湾不长草，也要解放台湾岛 (China rather to have the island scorched than letting it go). The US certainly want TSMC's competence and technology to be brought to somewhere controllable regardless what happens to Taiwan island. US can do it and is already doing it without any deal.
I somehow agree the article's notion that Trump want to use TSMC as a bargain chip of some sort (a chip with zero value, but we are talking about US here), but I disagree with the author saying China is interested of any deal. Just look at the Trump's last term, US threw tariff, China threw back retaliation, US and China agreed to lower tariff but neither stopped doing what the other wanted to stop.
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The China-US relationship has reached to the point of "you do what you want to do, I do mine", any "deal" is just a meaningless word to acknowledge what is happening in the battle field, nobody cares of negotiation.
Regardless what Trump thinks and does, China isn't interested in a deal, nor is China going to offer anything in return because China does NOT care of TSMC or any "valuable" assets on the island be it factories/labs or (pro independence) brains.
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Sounds like a shit deal. Complete transfer of power may take more than 4 years. Who's to say the next guy is gonna uphold their end of the agreement?
Just read about Trump's VP picks and had to look him up. I have to admit, I was surprised with how overt everything is.
Here's some information on J.D. Vance:
2006-2009 - Ba, political science, Ohio State University & work for Bob Schuler, Ohio Senate (R)
2013 - Yale (JD, law)
2013-15? - Sidley Austin LLP
2016-2017 - principal at Mithril Capital (Peter Thiel)
2017 - investment partner, Revolution LLC
2017 - CNN contributor
2019 - founder, Narya Capital LLC (with financial backing from Peter Thiel, Eric Schmidt/Google, Marc Andreessen)
The important question is how and why Vance got involved with Thiel who is a well known neo-feudal far-right radical as well as an active homosexual who nevertheless attempted to hide his sexuality and was famously outed by Gawker.
Thiel and other far-right radicals like Robert Mercer are the foundation of Vance's Senate run in 2022.
The biggest red flag would be his childhood history.
And some information on Vance's wife Usha Chilukuri
1986 - born, Delhi, India
2007? - Yale (Ba. history, Phi Beta Kappa)
2010 - Cambridge (Ma, philosophy, Bill Gates scholarship)
2013 - Yale (JD, law)
2014 - marries J.D. Vance - interfaith ceremony
2014-15- law clerk, federal circuit judge Brett Kavanaugh (SCOTUS nomination 2018)
2015-17 - associate, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP
2017-18 - law clerk, chief justice John Roberts
2019 - DC bar
The important question is her family and personal background. She comes supposedly out of nowhere and ends up getting scholarship from Gates and ends up in offices of extremely influential judges. Her work at Munger, Tolles & Ollson was caused by her clerkship with Kavanaugh as the firm recruits former clerks as insiders as part of their business strategy.
The biggest red flag is the interfaith ceremony as one of the common cultural patterns is women accepting the religion of their husband unless it is a political marriage where the family of the wife or others acting through her wants to retain control. This is how and why so many wives in ruling houses retained their religion.
This seems as both an attempt to white-wash her Hindu background to Republican electorate as well as likely, her developing a more acceptable cover as it is easier to hide behind a Catholic husband if you are a Hindu plant.
In both of their personal histories note the short duration of employment at crucial positions. This is not a professional career. This is professional grooming.
J.D. Vance is not Kamala Harris - a convenient pick for virtue signalling and vacating a safe California seat in US Senate, and a political nobody that has demonstrated her inability to stand on her own during the primaries in 2020. He is a plant of the most dangerous group of people currently having influence in American politics.
Trump sold out America to right-wing Jews (see personal background of his daughter) and chose Pence for personal safety (nobody wanted Pence as POTUS in 2016), and now it seems he is selling it out to right-wing Indians. As for him turning America into a neo-feudal oligarchy, this is consistent with his first presidency. Also American Catholic radicals and Opus Dei etc likely play a role.
Here Amy Chua is likely not a coincidence. She is also a Catholic, born in the US to Chinese-Filipino immigrant parents and she did have a personal role in Vance's publishing history as well as encouraging him to pursue a relationship with his future wife. Vance's book was then promoted in mainstream media and picked up for adaptation which is also not a coincidence considering that this book is nothing special. This was most likely already part of the grooming process.
So to sum everything up - Vance and his wife ale likely narcissistic psychopaths and pathological liars. They are simply better at hiding that part of their image in public which in turn is highly correlated with machiavellianism (trait) and malice. They're not dumb about it as Trump is. They're doing it the way it should be done. And that's why they clicked with four pathological environments at once in a very short amount of time - corporate law, media, venture capitalism and politics.
Anyone who thinks Trump picking Vance is a sign things may not be as bad is making exactly the wrong judgment. The primary role of the Vice-President in American political system: to take over after POTUS. Pence was insurance that Trump wouldn't be JFK'd. Vance is insurance that Project 2025 will go through. VP without connection to the party means exactly what I said, Trump and his backers are moving in for a coup and they will use the legal manipulation route to achieve it using the courts and their influence in SCOTUS. Using SCOTUS to achieve those goals will have only one effect - the unity of the federal legal and constitutional system will be undermined or possibly shattered as Democratic states will resist, since Project 2025 is designed with full acknowledgment that Republicans and Trump in particular will not have broad popular support for their plans.
And without law there is only... care to provide us with the answer to that riddle @LawLeadsToPeace ?
Here's some information on J.D. Vance:
2006-2009 - Ba, political science, Ohio State University & work for Bob Schuler, Ohio Senate (R)
2013 - Yale (JD, law)
2013-15? - Sidley Austin LLP
2016-2017 - principal at Mithril Capital (Peter Thiel)
2017 - investment partner, Revolution LLC
2017 - CNN contributor
2019 - founder, Narya Capital LLC (with financial backing from Peter Thiel, Eric Schmidt/Google, Marc Andreessen)
The important question is how and why Vance got involved with Thiel who is a well known neo-feudal far-right radical as well as an active homosexual who nevertheless attempted to hide his sexuality and was famously outed by Gawker.
Thiel and other far-right radicals like Robert Mercer are the foundation of Vance's Senate run in 2022.
The biggest red flag would be his childhood history.
And some information on Vance's wife Usha Chilukuri
1986 - born, Delhi, India
2007? - Yale (Ba. history, Phi Beta Kappa)
2010 - Cambridge (Ma, philosophy, Bill Gates scholarship)
2013 - Yale (JD, law)
2014 - marries J.D. Vance - interfaith ceremony
2014-15- law clerk, federal circuit judge Brett Kavanaugh (SCOTUS nomination 2018)
2015-17 - associate, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP
2017-18 - law clerk, chief justice John Roberts
2019 - DC bar
The important question is her family and personal background. She comes supposedly out of nowhere and ends up getting scholarship from Gates and ends up in offices of extremely influential judges. Her work at Munger, Tolles & Ollson was caused by her clerkship with Kavanaugh as the firm recruits former clerks as insiders as part of their business strategy.
The biggest red flag is the interfaith ceremony as one of the common cultural patterns is women accepting the religion of their husband unless it is a political marriage where the family of the wife or others acting through her wants to retain control. This is how and why so many wives in ruling houses retained their religion.
This seems as both an attempt to white-wash her Hindu background to Republican electorate as well as likely, her developing a more acceptable cover as it is easier to hide behind a Catholic husband if you are a Hindu plant.
In both of their personal histories note the short duration of employment at crucial positions. This is not a professional career. This is professional grooming.
J.D. Vance is not Kamala Harris - a convenient pick for virtue signalling and vacating a safe California seat in US Senate, and a political nobody that has demonstrated her inability to stand on her own during the primaries in 2020. He is a plant of the most dangerous group of people currently having influence in American politics.
Trump sold out America to right-wing Jews (see personal background of his daughter) and chose Pence for personal safety (nobody wanted Pence as POTUS in 2016), and now it seems he is selling it out to right-wing Indians. As for him turning America into a neo-feudal oligarchy, this is consistent with his first presidency. Also American Catholic radicals and Opus Dei etc likely play a role.
Here Amy Chua is likely not a coincidence. She is also a Catholic, born in the US to Chinese-Filipino immigrant parents and she did have a personal role in Vance's publishing history as well as encouraging him to pursue a relationship with his future wife. Vance's book was then promoted in mainstream media and picked up for adaptation which is also not a coincidence considering that this book is nothing special. This was most likely already part of the grooming process.
So to sum everything up - Vance and his wife ale likely narcissistic psychopaths and pathological liars. They are simply better at hiding that part of their image in public which in turn is highly correlated with machiavellianism (trait) and malice. They're not dumb about it as Trump is. They're doing it the way it should be done. And that's why they clicked with four pathological environments at once in a very short amount of time - corporate law, media, venture capitalism and politics.
Anyone who thinks Trump picking Vance is a sign things may not be as bad is making exactly the wrong judgment. The primary role of the Vice-President in American political system: to take over after POTUS. Pence was insurance that Trump wouldn't be JFK'd. Vance is insurance that Project 2025 will go through. VP without connection to the party means exactly what I said, Trump and his backers are moving in for a coup and they will use the legal manipulation route to achieve it using the courts and their influence in SCOTUS. Using SCOTUS to achieve those goals will have only one effect - the unity of the federal legal and constitutional system will be undermined or possibly shattered as Democratic states will resist, since Project 2025 is designed with full acknowledgment that Republicans and Trump in particular will not have broad popular support for their plans.
And without law there is only... care to provide us with the answer to that riddle @LawLeadsToPeace ?
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Why would anyone trust the Americans. Promises don’t mean shit to them.
That's actually a good point. The CPC loves their paper records and bureaucracy. Why do they insist upon these records if agreements and treaties with the US aren't worth the paper they're written on? Should be prepared to reneg and twist arms to get their way (with the US, that is) at the drop of a hat.
This is very similar to my view of these people. My only consolation to people living in China or Iran would be that they likely get caught up in pursuing "justice" through gangsterism against perceived domestic political opponents that it hamstrings their ability to actually make any meaningful change.
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I mean look at some of Vance's opinions or stated goals. He has specifically said he wants to purge that vast majority of some government agencies. Not sure how that is going to go over domestically, but potentially unemploying hundreds of thousands of people sounds like a surefire way to disaster. Or you know somehow deporting like 30 million people!
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