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ansy1968

Brigadier
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India is not a good player, nor does it possess good character. If roles were reversed between India and China do you think India would have shown as much restraint as China during the last 70 years?

India is using Balochi terrorists to attack CPEC projects in Pakistan, when has China resorted to such actions against India?
India is confiscating the assets and earnings of Chinese companies operating in India, when has China done the same to India?

Today's India already seeks the breakup of China; what do you think a stronger India would do?
Look at the treatment of women, minorities, lower castes, the natural environment, etc. in today's India and you will get an idea of what a stronger india would look like - a rapist, slave owning superpower causing untold misery, destruction and degradation to all it touches.

Holding to your principles is good, however don't let those principles get in the way of dealing with genuine problems.
You giving India to much credit, to be honest if you go cheap expect an inferior product and the Indians don't have the financial resources to destabilized, just look at Maldives, they can't even influence such a tiny country what more of Pakistan and China. Regarding the Balochistan I think the Pakistani is at fault, they need development and should be heard, the Pakistani open the way for the Indians to get involve, so they need put up their thinking cup and fine a solution together with the Balochi, they're your citizen and should be treated as one.
 

montyp165

Senior Member
There was that article recently where it was reveal that Vice President Dick Cheney was trying to goad China into any military action against Taiwan so it would be used as an excuse for the US to attack China. I'm sure there are plenty of Republicans today that would love to have the US killing Chinese to express their power. Killing is the ultimate expression of power and they need to put the Chinese in their place. Back then it was seen that the US military could take on China. Why the West hates Xi is because China is now an innovative power in the world. The US military ability to be able to handle China is in question but that doesn't stop Republicans from wanting to attack China militarily because they need to express their power.

Are people questioning that Xi is wrong that the US wants to use Taiwan as an excuse to attack China militarily? Of course they are. It isn't just Taiwan. You don't think the US put it in Marcos' head that if China killed a Filipino in any conflict in the South China Sea, it could be considered an act of war? It's just Americans don't have the stomach to lose their lives in a war. That's why they're trying to organize other countries to do their fighting for them. That's their new strategy. The US is afraid to send troops to Ukraine because it can escalate to something worse. That isn't going to happen regarding China? You don't think the US wouldn't mind the return of anti-Chinese pogroms?
Any such pogroms would be sufficient justification for China to permanently end the existence of the US let alone the end of US power, to the extent that the German-Soviet War would be but a minor skirmish by comparison.
 

tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
It's very inline with Brahmin like thinking. They're too good to do any actual work. That's reserved for dalits.

I remember when figures came out showing India's manufacturing hasn't improved at all compared to China some Indians said that's fine, we will do higher value work like designing the chips.

I wonder if most Indians really think like this? Like you can't even do the manufacturing right but somehow you can just skip learning those steps and move up the value chain just like that? This line of thinking really shows why India is in its current state if so. The west at one point still manufactured stuff you know.
The vast majority (>95%) of Indians do think like this, reflected in the fact that, at an individual level, their immigrants can be found all over in low level 'service' jobs like gas station attendants, call centers, 7-11 operators, none of which counts as real productive work. I've never seen an Indian doing skilled or unskilled labor work (e.g. carpenter).
At a high level, the fact that India's official policy pre-2015 "Make in India" was to leapfrog the industrial production phase and go straight into high value add services just shows that this type of thinking is endemic.
The issues occur when a true opportunity for higher value added work comes, and they realize they don't have the foundational tech, management systems or individual skills to realize those tasks to a satisfactory level, as most of those functions relate to actually making something physically.
To design for manufacture, you need to first understand manufacturing. Without this, all you have is BS talk.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Can you share that article?

When I find it I'll post the link.

Any such pogroms would be sufficient justification for China to permanently end the existence of the US let alone the end of US power, to the extent that the German-Soviet War would be but a minor skirmish by comparison.

I'm pessimistic about that simply because there are Chinese that think say nothing... do nothing when wronged is what's best. The West pushes for it like in the 1965 massacre in Indonesia where the US and Australia was pressuring for Indonesia to handle its communist problem. So because Chinese communism was see as the threat in Asia because the US said so, Indonesia slaughtered half a million Chinese in less than a month. Or how about how the British who shipped opium across Southeast Asia to get everyone else addicted and make money like they did in China where when the locals got wind of the evils of opium, the British pointed to the Chinese merchants ships the British used to spread opium around so that Chinese get blamed. And remember the US doesn't think they're guilty of torturing people if they get other countries to torture for them like they did during the War on Terror.
 

montyp165

Senior Member
When I find it I'll post the link.



I'm pessimistic about that simply because there are Chinese that think say nothing... do nothing when wronged is what's best. The West pushes for it like in the 1965 massacre in Indonesia where the US and Australia was pressuring for Indonesia to handle its communist problem. So because Chinese communism was see as the threat in Asia because the US said so, Indonesia slaughtered half a million Chinese in less than a month. Or how about how the British who shipped opium across Southeast Asia to get everyone else addicted and make money like they did in China where when the locals got wind of the evils of opium, the British pointed to the Chinese merchants ships the British used to spread opium around so that Chinese get blamed. And remember the US doesn't think they're guilty of torturing people if they get other countries to torture for them like they did during the War on Terror.
When it involves the US as an active hostile attacking China directly and militarily under such circumstances, then the entire situation changes as it becomes an existential fight, which is a very different beast to simply attacking Chinese ethnics in overseas regions.
 

tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
Remember guys, I said from getgo the Jan6th thing was FBI stirring up fake opposition....(funny how initially everything is a "conspiracy theory", -- a phrase coined by CIA -- until its not)

Its called the 5G warfare (no not Huawei 5G, but Fifth Generation Information Warfare)

Notice how now that US is losing the EV wars you barely hear anything about global warming, climate change, new green economy etc anymore.....
In fact the negative propaganda has already started:

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tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
I'm pessimistic about that simply because there are Chinese that think say nothing... do nothing when wronged is what's best. The West pushes for it like in the 1965 massacre in Indonesia where the US and Australia was pressuring for Indonesia to handle its communist problem. So because Chinese communism was see as the threat in Asia because the US said so, Indonesia slaughtered half a million Chinese in less than a month. Or how about how the British who shipped opium across Southeast Asia to get everyone else addicted and make money like they did in China where when the locals got wind of the evils of opium, the British pointed to the Chinese merchants ships the British used to spread opium around so that Chinese get blamed. And remember the US doesn't think they're guilty of torturing people if they get other countries to torture for them like they did during the War on Terror.
China did not have the power nor the reach to do anything about it back in the 60's. There is a lot more that can be weaponized to different degrees to deal with this sort of thing now.
 

Index

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Registered Member
Any such pogroms would be sufficient justification for China to permanently end the existence of the US let alone the end of US power, to the extent that the German-Soviet War would be but a minor skirmish by comparison.
Why would China go into such a giant quagmire that would most likely lead to nuclear exchange?

Chinese expats who willingly chose to aid the enemy at worst and at best only have coincidental ethnic ties to China are alone not justification for war. It'd be like America going to war over south African whites, except worse because South Africa doesn't have nukes and is much less populated.

In fact China should not bother with mainland USA and only focus on sea control. China only needs to enforce a favorable free trade agreement with the new USG, anything else they do is fine. Let them have their based trad right wing gilead dictatorship, that means they'll have no power outside of north America. China should even encourage such a development.

Having control of the Pacific, south America and the world island, China can let America have their playground in north America, in that way, there's no threat of nuclear tension. They can go ahead and act like animals there, kill as many blacks, jewish, Asians etc. Although most Chinese will probably just move out. Their government will be confronted with the stark reality of needing Chinese goods to survive and the threat of surrounding PLA garrisons, hence their market will remain open to China for profit extraction. As I see it, it's the safest approach to managing America.
 
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LKK815

New Member
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Why would China go into such a giant quagmire that would most likely lead to nuclear exchange?

Chinese expats who willingly chose to aid the enemy at worst and at best only have coincidental ethnic ties to China are alone not justification for war. It'd be like America going to war over south African whites, except worse because South Africa doesn't have nukes and is much less populated.

In fact China should not bother with mainland USA and only focus on sea control. China only needs to enforce a favorable free trade agreement with the new USG, anything else they do is fine. Let them have their based trad right wing gilead dictatorship, that means they'll have no power outside of north America. China should even encourage such a development.

Having control of the Pacific, south America and the world island, China can let America have their playground in north America, in that way, there's no threat of nuclear tension. They can go ahead and act like animals there, kill as many blacks, jewish, Asians etc. Although most Chinese will probably just move out. Their government will be confronted with the stark reality of needing Chinese goods to survive and the threat of surrounding PLA garrisons, hence their market will remain open to China for profit extraction. As I see it, it's the safest approach to managing America.
i really do not want to be rude. but at this point in time, if any chinese is naive and foolish enough to immigrate to the west(or any western aligned country for that matter) under the illusions of a "better life with more freedom", thinking that they would not be affected by the rampant and escalating sinophobia because they are the "good" chinese,

then they deserve everything that is going to happen to them. they were warned, they saw what is happening, but they still insist on going. china should not waste any resources trying to save these fools.
 
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