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These sort of method(s) being used and deployed by the American border agents are sanctioned and pushed by the U.S. government from both parties.

It's done to ensure as part of American effort on cognitive warfare or psychological warfare as part of its overall effort to isolate these talented and bright Chinese academics and others from their country and to blame their country's political leaders and ultimately system as the source of all these negative treatments they're experiencing. The action and even the assumptions being made by the powers that be like Pottinger and his ilk assumes that these same Chinese people will not hold the U.S. government and the country as a whole in general contempt and will be the one hold accountable by many in China and not just the CPC.

To many of the American anti-China hawks the experience of discrimination against Chinese national are just collateral and part of the necessary strategy to negate and arrest the advances China has been able to make these many decades. Apologies can be made and meal culpa will be issued when the American hegemon is all but assured. Otherwise, the fear of China surpassing America and every meaning of the word is not something they can or will be able to accept without causing untold destruction.

If enough talented Chinese people can be co-opted through this action and maybe even use them as potential spies and saboteurs for America against China that would be an optimal outcome but if that fiction does not materialize? Who gives a flying toss since that's not the main strategic objective and aims but only an ancillary benefit albeit with low probability.
 

Laviduce

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War is Approaching in Taiwan. Explanation with predictions of upcoming Conflict​


Looks like it will be difficult to avoid war. What will happen? - Awakening




IMHO, the Awakening gives a more balanced, fairly non-propagandistic perspective on geopolitics. Personally, I would recommend it.



On a side note, please check out this "gem":

James Li is joined by Bailingguo News to discuss thoughts on the US, a potential war with China, free speech and the future of Taiwan

 

In4ser

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Unexpected crossover episode between Sagar from BP and David P Goldman. The panel tries to brainstorm a way for the US to stay competitive and don’t have much except that we should encourage China investment, the typical American cope about the West being more “creative” and leap frogging China.

While it’s probably true that Western liberal culture, encourages more risk-taking, counterintuitive approaches than with Asian conservative, incremental mindset, it’s no guarantee of success. If anything, delusion and degeneracy are often the product of enabling individuals too freely. That’s why you have a society full of karens complaining, mass shootings and people pushing castration for self affirmation. After all, there is a thin line between madness and genius.

What most Americans don’t realize is how much times have changed. The US lacks the resources to grow and nurture its talent as it once did, and now China has the necessary capital, knowledge and infrastructure to easily poach talent or quickly adapt to new ideas and push out competition with 2nd mover advantage.
 
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And they say that China is too "timid" and doing nothing against the US while they are actually hitting them there where it hurts the most with de-americanization and de-dollarization of global finance. It is just that they not announcing it pompously all day.


From the 2024 Tsinghua PBCSF Global Finance Forum,


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There are also reports like this one, the first time I heard about it, worth reading, very based China,




This is just from the foreword, very high-value assessment, it seems that they are perfectly aware of all the rotting going on in the US.



The human rights situation in the United States continued to deteriorate in 2023. In the United States, human rights are becoming increasingly polarized. While a ruling minority holds political, economic, and social dominance, the majority of ordinary people are increasingly marginalized, with their basic rights and freedoms being disregarded.

Gun violence spills over, while the government's control policies are ineffective. There were at least 654 mass shootings in the United States in 2023. Approximately 43,000 people were killed by gun violence in 2023, averaging 117 deaths per day. Driven by partisan polarization and interest groups, a growing number of state governments have taken the initiative to push legislation to expand residents' rights to own and bear arms. In 2023, at least 27 states did not require a license to carry a handgun.

The government has abused its power to monitor citizens' privacy, suppressing freedom of speech and expression. The FBI redirected Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to conduct domestic surveillance, "persistent and widespread" monitoring of the communications of members of the Congress, congressional campaign donors, and anti-racist protesters. A growing number of states have passed legislation banning public schools from using educational materials and books that address specific topics such as race, history and gender. The number of faculty members punished or fired for speech and expression on U.S. college campuses has reached a 20-year high.

Deaths from police brutality hit a record high, rendering the police enforcement accountability system virtually non-existent. Police brutality persisted and at least 1,247 deaths were attributed to police violence, an average of roughly three people killed by officers each day. Internal-affairs departments are often more interested in exonerating colleagues than investigating misconduct, making it difficult for police to be held accountable, and more than half of police killings were incorrectly labeled as "general homicide or suicide" in CDC's official death statistics database.

The prominent issues of mass incarceration and forced labor make it a "prison nation." The United States is home to 5 percent of the world's population, but 25 percent of the world's prisoners, making it the country with the highest incarceration rate and the largest number of incarcerated individuals globally. Prisons force inmates to work for low or no pay, without benefits, while generating billions of dollars' worth of goods and services annually.

The two parties continue to manipulate the election. On the opening day of the 118th U.S. Congress in January 2023, the House of Representatives faced a "Speaker crisis," and 2023 was the lowest water mark for Congress' productivity ever since the American Civil War. The two parties continue to change their ways to manipulate the redistricting and distort public opinion for the sake of party self-interest. There are 16 states that have significant manipulation of congressional district boundaries, and 12 of them are states with serious manipulation of districts as a whole. The general public in the United States is extremely disappointed with the federal government and politics at all levels. A staggering 76 percent of Americans believe that their nation is in the wrong direction.

Ethnic minorities in the United States face systematic racial discrimination, as the chronic disease of racism persists. African American are three times more likely to be killed by police than whites, and 4.5 times more likely to be incarcerated. Nearly three quarters of Chinese Americans had experienced racial discrimination in the past year, and 55 percent feared that hate crimes or harassment would jeopardize their personal safety. Native Americans have lived in a constant state of cultural oppression, with their religious beliefs and traditional practices ruthlessly stifled. Racist ideology is spreading virulently in the United States and spilling across borders.

Growing economic and social inequality makes life extremely difficult for the poor. The United States has been refusing to ratify the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The wealth gap has hit a record high since the Great Depression of 1929 under systematic designs to exploit the poor, subsidize the rich, and segregate the classes. The "working poor" caught in structural poverty lack equal opportunities and are difficult to move upwards. The number of homeless people in the United States exceeds 650,000, the highest since reporting began in 2007. Drug and substance abuse keeps raging. Suicide rates continue to rise.

The United States has not ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and remains the only UN member state which has not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The U.S. Constitution does not prohibit gender-based discrimination. It is also the only country in the world that sentences children to life in prison without parole. The number of people dying from pregnancy-related causes in the United States has more than doubled in the last 20 years. More than 2.2 million U.S. women of childbearing age do not have access to obstetric care. At least 21 states in the United States ban or severely restrict abortion, where safe abortion is largely unavailable. Pregnancy discrimination is widespread, forcing nearly 54,000 women in the United States to leave their jobs every year. Millions of children have been excluded from the federal government's Medicaid health insurance program. Thousands of foster children go missing every year. Audits found state agencies failed to report an estimated 34,800 cases of missing foster kids across 46 states.

The humanitarian crisis along the border has escalated, causing heart-wrenching struggles of undocumented migrants. The U.S.-Mexico border is the world's deadliest land migration route, according to the United Nations migration agency. At least 149 migrants perished in the El Paso border patrol region in the 12 months ending on Sep. 30, 2023. In the fiscal year 2023, the number of immigrants apprehended or deported at the U.S. southern border reached more than 2.4 million, another record high. Migrants are also subjected to torture and other forms of inhuman treatment. U.S. border policies facilitate modern slavery. The U.S. government's border policies exacerbate the problem of human trafficking. Unaccompanied migrant children suffer from brutal forced labor and exploitation.

The United States has long pursued hegemonism, practiced power politics, and created humanitarian crises. In the theaters of war where the United States conducted overseas "counter-terrorism" operations following the 9/11 attacks, the total death toll ranges from at least 4.5 to 4.7 million people. The U.S. military violates the sovereignty and human rights of other nations via "proxy forces" programs and continued providing arms to conflict zones, resulting in massive civilian casualties. The notorious Guantanamo prison which severely violates human rights is still in operation. Prolonged and indiscriminate use of unilateral sanctions has caused serious humanitarian consequences. The United States has used more sanctions than any other country in the world.

In the United States, human rights is essentially a privilege enjoyed only by a few. The country's various human rights problems seriously threaten and hinder the healthy development of the world human rights cause.
 

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The app’s executives proposed giving the Biden administration control over its U.S. operations and a kill switch if things went south. The administration declined, setting up an existential legal fight.


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Bytedance denied the allegations in Chinese, though tbh I trust WaPo over Bytedance here.
The Biden people are doing Bytedance a huge favor by rejecting the offer and pushing for all or nothing. Most legal experts think this law will be shut down by the court system. If the White House crawls back to Bytedance asking for the original offer after losing in court, I don't see Bytedance offering it again.
 
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The Biden people are doing Bytedance a huge favor by rejecting the offer and pushing for all or nothing. Most legal experts think this law will be shut down by the court system and if the White House crawls back to Bytedance asking for the original offer after losing in court, I don't see Bytedance offering it again.
I don't think anything was offered to begin with, it's just propaganda to placate Americans.
 

Santamaria

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Let me know if you prefer the overengineering of American cars vs. a Soviet Lada when Вова пил немного водка
Actually the Lada probably is better.

In Spain the Lada Niva was superfamous for being reliable to go to the country side during countryside bullrunning (a kind of bullrunning where bulls are free in the coutnry side and some people go with horses, other with cars and others running).

Lada Nivas was favored over Range Rover and that kind of american cars because they were more resilient. Resist better if the bull attack you and were famous for being usable during decades and decades.

And in addition they were cheaper.

In reality most of what westerners think about Soviet union is propagandized lies. I myself was in that trap during many years. When you really analyses numbers you see how wrong this is.

Western way of thinking is:

Soviet launched supersonic civil aircraft earlier than Concorde, however the soviet is a copy and the concorde is better

Soviet created a sapce shuttle before US, but the US was the original and the soviet a copy

Soviet created the space stations, but US was better.

You can continue this list as much as you want.
Only aspect where is really provable that westerner things was better than soviet is in consumer gadgets like coffee machines, microwaves and so on, because the only way of really catching the consumer needs is the consumer loop that soviet union lacked.
 

CMP

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I don't think anything was offered to begin with, it's just propaganda to placate Americans.
It is self-destructive propaganda though in the sense that it will discourage young Democratic party voters from turning up for election day. If Democrats put this propaganda out, then they have shot themselves in the face. If Republicans put this propaganda out, then it is a master class on how to fuck the Democrats.
 
Only aspect where is really provable that westerner things was better than soviet is in consumer gadgets like coffee machines, microwaves and so on, because the only way of really catching the consumer needs is the consumer loop that soviet union lacked.
But unfortunately, consumers care more about coffee machines and microwaves than space stations and supersonic passenger planes. In 1980's China, that was a saying that it was better to sell tea-flavored eggs than to build nuclear bombs. Ultimately, what matters most to the citizens of a country is their standard of living and quality of life.
 
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