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Randomuser

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I have become numb to this kind of thing. The leadership will always only repeat those useless words. Do they really fear that war will expose the weakness of the army?

The public cannot always support policies that lack hope.Political legitimacy is not a property that can be squandered at will.
The true hawks in China still lack influence. Those "nationalists" only focus on ancient costumes and engage in ridiculous cosplay of ancient costumes.
Strekov is a dangerous opportunist, but we don't even have such people.
We have always been taught to believe in the leadership and decisions of the higher ups, but now they still cannot demonstrate a clear determination to uphold national unity.
The leaders who dared to make great decisions and take the initiative to fight for national security are no longer alive, and now only ordinary people lead us.
Reacting to something especially when it's bait is never a good idea. You should always set the stage and time to take action rather than let others do it.

The problem is when is the right time to move? We do not know this because the government obviously does not want to disclosure it's plan. So we can't tell if they have something planned or if they are just clueless.
 

manqiangrexue

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This is treason and every on ROC government should be hanged. Those special forces aren’t just to act as a trip wire force, they’re also there to do black ops sabotage on the mainland.
They're there to train people, the Ukraine Special as mentioned above.

Trip wire forces don't make sense; the US goes to war or stays on the sidelines based on whether or not it thinks it can win. If they think they can, just the fact that China is using force against the ROC is enough justification. If not, it doesn't matter how many US trainers are killed in the strike; they just become liabilities for the Pentagon to explain why they won't act even though Americans were killed. If few enough, they're just disclosed to the public as "training accident" deaths.

Sabotage the Mainland? They wouldn't dare. With a handful of men and China's military on high alert in the area, if they are caught or killed, the humiliation that the US would endure is simply not worth the risk.
I have become numb to this kind of thing.
You spelled "dumb" wrong.
The leadership will always only repeat those useless words. Do they really fear that war will expose the weakness of the army?
That is why they are the leaders growing China and whittling down the US advantage until it becomes a Chinese advantage, then an overwhelming Chinese advantage and you are an online complainer only, because you would get China into a premature conflict baited by a tactic too obvious to catch wild animals.
The public cannot always support policies that lack hope.Political legitimacy is not a property that can be squandered at will.
The true hawks in China still lack influence. Those "nationalists" only focus on ancient costumes and engage in ridiculous cosplay of ancient costumes.
Strekov is a dangerous opportunist, but we don't even have such people.
The public support of the CCP is quite solid; didn't you get banned before for pretending that your own opinion is widespread opinion?
We have always been taught to believe in the leadership and decisions of the higher ups, but now they still cannot demonstrate a clear determination to uphold national unity.
That's why people need to believe; if everything they did was obvious and drew celebration, you could just go on animal instincts. Multi-decade strategies are going to take patience, convoluted tactics, and trust from the people but when they bear fruit, as they already have in several sectors, the result is amazing and stunning to the enemy.
The leaders who dared to make great decisions and take the initiative to fight for national security are no longer alive, and now only ordinary people lead us.
You mean those leaders who failed to take the ROC in the past even they they flew aircraft over us? Now we have jet patrols over them every day, our ships fish and sail wherever they want and tell the ROC Coast Guard/Navy to eat a dck when warned so now that these leaders have achieved this new power balance and are still advancing it quickly to our advantage, you think they are worse than before because they are not aggressive enough? LOL Please do your best to improve yourself to the level of "ordinary people."
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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I have become numb to this kind of thing. The leadership will always only repeat those useless words. Do they really fear that war will expose the weakness of the army?

The public cannot always support policies that lack hope.Political legitimacy is not a property that can be squandered at will.
The true hawks in China still lack influence. Those "nationalists" only focus on ancient costumes and engage in ridiculous cosplay of ancient costumes.
Strekov is a dangerous opportunist, but we don't even have such people.
We have always been taught to believe in the leadership and decisions of the higher ups, but now they still cannot demonstrate a clear determination to uphold national unity.
The leaders who dared to make great decisions and take the initiative to fight for national security are no longer alive, and now only ordinary people lead us.
I am definitely leaning towards your opinion. I just can't quite grasped and understand the rationale behind such callous and obvious trampling on China's supposed red line. The PLA can't even visit anyone's port without the west going on a meltdown, yet China with its supposed "strong" PLA can't even make a determined action to stop placing ot American troops so close to the mainland?

What the flying f... are the people behind the CPC leadership more can wait for to cause them to act? Massively disappointing TBH. But then again, we can't let EMOTIONS dictate the right course of action when it comes to situation that involves catastrophy for the world.
 

manqiangrexue

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I am definitely leaning towards your opinion. I just can't quite grasped and understand the rationale behind such callous and obvious trampling on China's supposed red line. The PLA can't even visit anyone's port without the west going on a meltdown, yet China with its supposed "strong" PLA can't even make a determined action to stop placing ot American troops so close to the mainland?
Do you realize how low hanging and easy the fruit is for Americans to place some personnel in Taiwan? Do you know how high the threshold is for China to stop them? It's essentially, go to war or offer the US negotiations/concessions to remove them which I think everyone here understands is stupid. This is a perfect example of the need to avoid being baited into a disadvantaged and uneven situation.
What the flying f... are the people behind the CPC leadership more can wait for to cause them to act? Massively disappointing TBH.
They can wait for the power balance to tilt further instead of bursting a blood vessel in their eyes getting baited into doing something now when it would be better and easier to do it later. If the power balance starts to tilt the other way or if China achieves a power dominance that makes foreign military intervention inplausible and economic sanctions useless, then it comes time when something more proactive should be done. If you were disappointed by this, if you expected that something spectacular that you can toast to would be done, then you haven't been watching China at all for the past few decades. Our main reaction to all US provocations has been outgrowing the US and running down the clock on their global rule. That's the one reaction they really fear; everything else they're happy deal with/negotiate over. What the flying F do you think they should do?
But then again, we can't let EMOTIONS dictate the right course of action when it comes to situation that involves catastrophy for the world.
I see you've edited this in as a counter-thesis to everything you've said above.
 
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TK3600

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I am definitely leaning towards your opinion. I just can't quite grasped and understand the rationale behind such callous and obvious trampling on China's supposed red line. The PLA can't even visit anyone's port without the west going on a meltdown, yet China with its supposed "strong" PLA can't even make a determined action to stop placing ot American troops so close to the mainland?

What the flying f... are the people behind the CPC leadership more can wait for to cause them to act? Massively disappointing TBH. But then again, we can't let EMOTIONS dictate the right course of action when it comes to situation that involves catastrophy for the world.
你打你的,我打我的。
China can retaliate in other advantageous place asymetrically. Some discount steel pipes to Hamas will hurt American ruling class more than Green Beret in Kinmen, with less provocation.
 

supersnoop

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Treason this, treason that. Treason, as all words in fact, are human concepts

PRC knew from years ago that there were/are/going-to-be US troops stationed in Taiwan. This is not a surprise to anyone.

US had breached PRC's red line of no US troops in Taiwan many years ago

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3500-4000 Pentagon "officials"..



So the red line of US troops has been breached many years ago. The next salami slice that US is attempting is to move in more troops and equipment to Taiwan.


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The Ukraine special

They aren't exactly sending their best and brightest
This guy was fired last year
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Only to be replaced by this lady
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As you can see, firing finalized a few weeks ago

The Security Force Assistance Brigades were stood up by the Army between 2017 and 2020. Soldiers in those regionally aligned brigades sport the brown beret and "Advisor" tab, uniform items the service has implemented to make SFABs stand apart from the rest of the force. The brigades are focused on working with U.S. allies to train their forces, help refine their doctrine or assess their military capabilities. The 5th SFAB focuses on the Pacific and countries including the Philippines, Mongolia and Australia.

You can guess who else they train...
 

delta115

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This is treason and every on ROC government should be hanged. Those special forces aren’t just to act as a trip wire force, they’re also there to do black ops sabotage on the mainland.

Doesn't make sense as trip wire force, small unit like that is not enough to justify conflict with China. Beside, if US want to go to war with China for Taiwan they don't need that kind of excuse to begin with.

Also, in an event of open war, that base would be first to capture or destroy anyway. The black ops on mainland also too much risk for geopolitical image, if any of them got caught.

The move seem like US still want to flex themselves on Taiwan with minimal risk while also use this unit for training and observation post.
 

Randomuser

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Do you realize how low hanging and easy the fruit is for Americans to place some personnel in Taiwan? Do you know how high the threshold is for China to stop them? It's essentially, go to war or offer the US negotiations/cpncessions to remove them which I think everyone here understands is stupid. This is a perfect example of the need to avoid being baited into a disadvantaged and uneven situation.

They can wait for the power balance to tilt further instead of bursting a blood vessel in their eyes getting baited into doing something now when it would be better and easier to do it later. If the power balance starts to tilt the other way or if China achieves a power dominance that makes foreign military intervention inplausible and economic sanctions useless, then it comes time when something more proactive should be done. If you were disappointed by this, if you expected that something spectacular that you can toast to would be done, then you haven't been watching China at all for the past few decades. Our main reaction to all US provocations has been outgrowing the US and running down the clock on their global rule. That's the one reaction they really fear; everything else they're happy deal with/negotiate over. What the flying F do you think they should do?

I see you've edited this in as a counter-thesis to everything you've said above.
Reminds me of HK 2019 all over again. Stupid weak CCP getting humiliated by these HKers and foreigners in HK! They should send in the tanks and crush them!

And they didn't do anything in the end. Yet those HKers either ran away or are in jail. Those foreigners in HK don't dare step foot again. In fact they are trying to kill HK now despite previously virtue signalling.

Taunting or acting provocative only works if you win the fight. If you don't, you end up like those guys in those when trash talking goes wrong fights videos. And the other guy can easily say you started it so he feels no guilt for crushing you.
 

Overbom

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I have become numb to this kind of thing. The leadership will always only repeat those useless words. Do they really fear that war will expose the weakness of the army?

The public cannot always support policies that lack hope.Political legitimacy is not a property that can be squandered at will.
The true hawks in China still lack influence. Those "nationalists" only focus on ancient costumes and engage in ridiculous cosplay of ancient costumes.
Strekov is a dangerous opportunist, but we don't even have such people.
We have always been taught to believe in the leadership and decisions of the higher ups, but now they still cannot demonstrate a clear determination to uphold national unity.
The leaders who dared to make great decisions and take the initiative to fight for national security are no longer alive, and now only ordinary people lead us.
From your past history, I know this won't change your opinion so I am writing this not only for you, but for others who may get misdirected by your post.



Its a common rookie mistake to lose the initiative, follow your opponent's rhythm and target where they want to be targeted instead where they fear to be targeted

Historically, great generals in the vast majority of cases have been the definition of steadiness and not making mistakes. At such a high level life and death battle, you don't aim for risky moves to win, but you aim to not lose. You dont try to do never-seen-before spectacular moves, but instead do your basic moves on which you have trained thousands and tens of thousands of times

You can win hundred of times, but you only have one life to live. You can afford to win 99 times because you know that as long as you live, there are always going to be opportunities to win once more.

China doesn't have to take risks and take dangerous bets. Historically, nations with the least number of mistakes are the ones which have the last laugh
 
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