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Phead128

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That woman boss in the video posted directly above, her name is

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That is a very interesting surname, I never met anyone with that surname, lol.

Okay, hands up if you knew someone with that surname or is that your family name?

:D
Um... I know someone very close with that surname. You can say, he is talking to you right now.
 

zbb

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It happened to Samsung before this, when it moved all of its smartphone production out of China in 2019, mainly to Vietnam and India. Samsung had its market share in China drop from 20% in 2013 to around 1% today. Apple is the next smartphone company who made the serious push to move its production and supply chains out from China. Namely to India, and Vietnam. Even more provocative was Apple's push to have India replace China as Apple's main manufacturing center. Because both the US and India are the most active nations in trying to sabotage China's economy.

So imagine one day where Apple makes its iPhones mainly in India, and then sells them in China. This, after unnecessarily dismantling its manufacturing center in China that was running so well. The made-in-India iPhones will be more expensive, lower quality, scarcer, and worse, it makes a mockery of China's relationship with Apple. So why should any Chinese put up with this nonsense? Giving business to people who are seeking to undermine China. Its Apple who unnecessarily provoked this, so they should feel the heat. Since India is more important to Apple than China, they should go and sell more iPhones there, and forget about Chinese business. The Chinese will have full justification to support their local smartphone brands over those untrustworthy and ungrateful foreign brands.

But China is moving on already. It is no longer just a cheap factory and big market for Apple and Samsung. It is becoming serious competition to them.
Samsung smartphones lost the China market after the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 battery fire issue in 2016. Samsung gave free battery and phone replacements for all customers outside of China, but refused to do so in China and in fact pursued legal action against Chinese customers whose phones had caught fire for defamation. The drastic differential treatment of Chinese customers for the Galaxy Note 7 battery fire issue destroyed all consumer goodwill that Samsung had in China, resulting in a complete collapse of Samsung sales in China. Samsung only moved smartphone production out of China several years later.
 

Sardaukar20

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Samsung smartphones lost the China market after the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 battery fire issue in 2016. Samsung gave free battery and phone replacements for all customers outside of China, but refused to do so in China and in fact pursued legal action against Chinese customers whose phones had caught fire for defamation. The drastic differential treatment of Chinese customers for the Galaxy Note 7 battery fire issue destroyed all consumer goodwill that Samsung had in China, resulting in a complete collapse of Samsung sales in China. Samsung only moved smartphone production out of China several years later.
Wow that's unforgivable by Samsung with their double standards against the Chinese. I would even argue that that that was racially motivated. I don't like Samsung, but this is just ugly. Well good riddance to Samsung in China. However, when taken into context, that Samsung incident happened before the current geopolitical climate of trade war and cold war.

Now is the post-Covid world with an ongoing trade war and cold war between China and the US. What Apple is doing today is piling even more pressure on China by carrying out the US's ultimate goal of shifting supply chains away from China. With the ultimate goal of deindustrializing and impoverishing China. Most Chinese people are not in the mood for anymore acts of undermining China. So Apple's demise in China could be comparable to Samsung. Maybe its decline in China might be slower than Samsung, but its on course to lose the Chinese market in time.
 

emblem21

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Wow that's unforgivable by Samsung with their double standards against the Chinese. I would even argue that that that was racially motivated. I don't like Samsung, but this is just ugly. Well good riddance to Samsung in China. However, when taken into context, that Samsung incident happened before the current geopolitical climate of trade war and cold war.

Now is the post-Covid world with an ongoing trade war and cold war between China and the US. What Apple is doing today is piling even more pressure on China by carrying out the US's ultimate goal of shifting supply chains away from China. With the ultimate goal of deindustrializing and impoverishing China. Most Chinese people are not in the mood for anymore acts of undermining China. So Apple's demise in China could be comparable to Samsung. Maybe its decline in China might be slower than Samsung, but its on course to lose the Chinese market in time.
Sooner or later when the stars align, China needs to not only destroy the US economy but double, triple and quadruple tap that ship to make it an example to the rest of the known world that the USA is not the one that dictates teams but will also serve as a warning to the rest of the morons near China that just because China didn’t beat the hell out of them during WW2 doesn’t mean that China isn’t going to do it sooner or later when the US is out of the picture with the majority of the nation smoking Opioids and Traq, both of which they are still blaming China for crying out loud
 

ansy1968

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Now is the post-Covid world with an ongoing trade war and cold war between China and the US. What Apple is doing today is piling even more pressure on China by carrying out the US's ultimate goal of shifting supply chains away from China. With the ultimate goal of deindustrializing and impoverishing China. Most Chinese people are not in the mood for anymore acts of undermining China. So Apple's demise in China could be comparable to Samsung. Maybe its decline in China might be slower than Samsung, but its on course to lose the Chinese market in time.
Bro, how to detoxify these Apple lover? you need at two things to make it work, first by market forces, you need at least a comparable or better a more superior replacement available, second from policy action, here the Chinese had the political will and capability to implement an effective ban. Will it work?

My take after witnessing how Apple are able to hook all of mine family members (I Stand Alone with my Huawei P30 PRO) the magic ingredient is the OS, that's the secret sauce. If Huawei Harmony OS is able to perform better or at least comparable then let the market decide, I believed that competition is good for everybody and the Chinese will surely agree.
 

TK3600

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Bro, how to detoxify these Apple lover? you need at two things to make it work, first by market forces, you need at least a comparable or better a more superior replacement available, second from policy action, here the Chinese had the political will and capability to implement an effective ban. Will it work?

My take after witnessing how Apple are able to hook all of mine family members (I Stand Alone with my Huawei P30 PRO) the magic ingredient is the OS, that's the secret sauce. If Huawei Harmony OS is able to perform better or at least comparable then let the market decide, I believed that competition is good for everybody and the Chinese will surely agree.
Apple was never the best performance wise. This is the case from iPhone 5 and onward. It is mostly about convenience of not learning new system, and brand prestige. Something must have happened that suddenly make people think otherwise.
 

ansy1968

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Apple was never the best performance wise. This is the case from iPhone 5 and onward. It is mostly about convenience of not learning new system, and brand prestige. Something must have happened that suddenly make people think otherwise.
And I think Harmony OS had best the chance if they can able to deliver as advertise, especially on their IOT. They had a visible presence in EV, while Apple are not? So they have the first mover advantage with their 5g technology, plus the CCP had set guidelines and national policy regarding IOT which is imbedded in their 14th 5 year plan.
 

TK3600

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And I think Harmony OS had best the chance if they can able to deliver as advertise, especially on their IOT. They had a visible presence in EV, while Apple are not? So they have the first mover advantage with their 5g technology, plus the CCP had set guidelines and national policy regarding IOT which is imbedded in their 14th 5 year plan.
IOS will always be biggest because other android systems have their own set ups. So there must be a single brand with more OS share than Apple. Until then IOS user entrenchment continues.

Alternatively there should be an Android system with UI closely resemble Apple so using it don't cause awkward issues. While also provides equivalent software service like icloud from stock.
 
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