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CrazyHorse

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Tbh China knew exactly what it was doing with Kissinger and America. The USSR had to go in order for China to take the first steps towards realizing a socialism based world order.

Without Kissinger there would be no 25 years of American world dominance. But there would also not be an energy independent and secure China.

We gave them the present and they gave us the future. And based on how things are going, no one can say that we were cheated. Hence, China's leaders also met Kissinger not as a representative of the enemy, but as someone who contributed to the creation of the new China.
The USSR had to go? How the hell could a marxist party be standing in the way of socialism? Insanity. The collapse of the USSR was a great crisis, and it killed millions and destroyed industry that was then shipped off.
 

CrazyHorse

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Hot take: Kissinger is pretty light on warcrime compared to others in his position. And unlike others, he served his country well for the price of some warcrime. Others do more warcrime with no pay off.
His policy has led to the deaths of literal millions, go tell a Cambodian that. He supported Indonesia in their massacres throughout the 60’s, and expanded the Vietnam war into neighbouring countries. There is no “good” side to him. He is evil, and China liking him because he opened up relations doesn’t make him any less so. Guy crashed peace talks during Vietnam so that he could leave the communists worse off when they eventually won. Disgusting to hear people who may consider themselves “marxists” defending an enemy of workers around the world.
 

TK3600

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His policy has led to the deaths of literal millions, go tell a Cambodian that. He supported Indonesia in their massacres throughout the 60’s, and expanded the Vietnam war into neighbouring countries. There is no “good” side to him. He is evil, and China liking him because he opened up relations doesn’t make him any less so. Guy crashed peace talks during Vietnam so that he could leave the communists worse off when they eventually won. Disgusting to hear people who may consider themselves “marxists” defending an enemy of workers around the world.
From an American perspective he did a good job. If an American leader dismantle the country soviet union style it would be a boon to communism, but that wont make him a good American leader.

Also millions? That is rookie number sorry. How many did US kill in middle east? I know he is amoral but he is a good diplomat, and it is unfair for other Americans to be selectively applying double standard on him while ignoring the every other politicians. Of course if you are not American, it is completely fair to dislike him.
 

supercat

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He was a terrible human, his foreign policy killed thousands. An evil arm of American imperialism.
His policy has led to the deaths of literal millions, go tell a Cambodian that. He supported Indonesia in their massacres throughout the 60’s, and expanded the Vietnam war into neighbouring countries. There is no “good” side to him. He is evil, and China liking him because he opened up relations doesn’t make him any less so. Guy crashed peace talks during Vietnam so that he could leave the communists worse off when they eventually won. Disgusting to hear people who may consider themselves “marxists” defending an enemy of workers around the world.
No doubt, Kissinger probably committed war crimes. However, from a pragmatic view, China should thank him and the Nixon administration if the following was true.

Nixon intervention saved China from Soviet nuclear attack​

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Typical of their deity, the Zionists expect the world to acquiesce to the excesses of their own, as though Zionists are the gods of the world. You cant question European Americans when they genocide Palestinians just because these European americans want to LARP as Bronze Age Hebrews complete with their own “reconstructed” language, nor when they try to claim hummus as their own as their children feed on German bagels and schnitze, distinctly unlevantine.

‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza​

Permissive airstrikes on non-military targets and the use of an artificial intelligence system have enabled the Israeli army to carry out its deadliest war on Gaza, a +972 and Local Call investigation reveals.

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The article above, which came from an Israeli publication, is one of the most damning report about Israeli military's conduct so far and deserves more elaboration. Here are some "nuggets" from the article:
  • AI assisted mass murders:
  • Civilian targets were per-selected intentionally and the Israeli knew exactly how many civilians might be killed.
  • Wanton ignorance of civilian casualties:
 

supercat

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What a meme, I've been talking to german navy guys and they all believe the China gets old before it gets rich, deflation, and evergrande collapse stories, meanwhile german economy is doing good with respect to the global circumstances in their eyes.
As though Germany doesn't have one of the worst demographics in the world, and its total population is less than 6% of China's. BTW, Germany's economy is so bad currently, even Greece started to advice them.

200,000 - 300,000 young Ukraine men died in vain, because Boris Johnson prevented Zelensky from negotiating with Russia in the very early stage of the Ukraine War. Yet The Economist will publish a piece with such a nonsensical title.

LMAO:
 

supercat

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LMAO - India may well confess their guilt because their intelligence probably has been thoroughly infiltrated by the NSA.

I didn't know "free speech" can be this selective.

Why some Israelis think Bibi is a sociopath.

Interesting comparison:
 

Chevalier

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Ngl sounds awesome
That’s what the first generation of the colonised thought as well, until their children and children’s children who studied in the alien home world came back with new ideas and alien science and technology and notions of human nationalism. Terrans will soon have their own Mao and Ho Chi Minh.

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In light of the Russian outlawing of lgbt propaganda, China should also similarly contain the mind virus of globohomo, homosexuals in China has its own ancient tradition, there’s no reason to import the existentialist hedonistic nihilism that epitomises western homosexua culture.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Tbh China knew exactly what it was doing with Kissinger and America. The USSR had to go in order for China to take the first steps towards realizing a socialism based world order.

Without Kissinger there would be no 25 years of American world dominance. But there would also not be an energy independent and secure China.

We gave them the present and they gave us the future. And based on how things are going, no one can say that we were cheated. Hence, China's leaders also met Kissinger not as a representative of the enemy, but as someone who contributed to the creation of the new China.

Minnie Chan bullshitting so much that one of her guesses was true by coincidence, making the government think she had access to classified data.
My impression was that she did have some access to internal sources within the PLA. However the double sword with this kind of connection is that as a journalist, you leak what the PLA tells you to leak, nothing more, nothing less. Maybe she overstepped her unspoken boundaries.
 
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