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That just proves that smart Indians overseas are smart, that they can successful immigrate out. It does not prove that the average Indian in India is smart. We are taking about averages, not the top 1%.

Also, there is no pride in Brain Drain to West unless India directly benefits from it.

The Chinese with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities in China. They have zero reason to leave the country. Chinese who have immigrated pre-2000s or managed to develop in demand talents while in the US also show strong tendency to return to China. US is viewed as just a great place to "lay half flat."
 
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The drives, the passions, the fighting spirit and the ability of these Indians helped them break through the glass ceiling and therefore improve their image, perception, and acceptance in the general society, the corporate world, and political world. As Leader/CEO of these corporations they can influence the works and mechanism of every steps of the political ladder. They can influence political leaders to mellow negative policy against India and at the same time megaphones and supports the positive ones.

Even if Vivek Ramaswamy unlikely to be elected as president of USA he can still push, megaphone, and reinforcement India positive and China negative message/narrative in the western MSM.
There will be a limit to how much Indians can influence politics in the west. Unlike other ethnic groups with a disproportionate influence in politics like Jews, Jesuits, Evangelicals, etc it's pretty hard to hide the fact you're an Indian. It's fine being anti-China and pro-Indian migration, because the elites currently want that.

When they start pushing for anti-cow slaughter laws, legalisation of sati and caste discrimination people will start to question their Indian overlords.
 

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There will be a limit to how much Indians can influence politics in the west. Unlike other ethnic groups with a disproportionate influence in politics like Jews, Jesuits, Evangelicals, etc it's pretty hard to hide the fact you're an Indian. It's fine being anti-China and pro-Indian migration, because the elites currently want that.

When they start pushing for anti-cow slaughter laws, legalisation of sati and caste discrimination people will start to question their Indian overlords.
Nikey Haley not only has a white name but also looks white.
 

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Surprisingly, German far rights is the most pro-China party in German. Chinese government is pragmatic enough to work with anyone and has already engaged with AfD party.
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It is more like all establishment parties are run-of-the-mill atlanticist, cultural universalist, liberal parties. When you don't subscribe to universalism or don't want your country to serve American interests, leaving China alone becomes the no-brainer action. But ofc Germany being Germany these are inakzeptabel for the mainstream establishment. They still couldn't name anybody for the NordStream. Someone blew up a 20 billion EUR infrastructure in a European inland sea and they couldn't be even named. We all know who that someone is. Germany with its current establishment is effectively a US colony. Compared to this any other option is pro-seeseepee by default.
 
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Nikey Haley not only has a white name but also looks white.
You mean Nimarata Randhwala? Some Bhramins may pass as white in America, but the average Indian looks like this:
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"when India becomes developed"
Come on, you guys knew I meant "more developed." :)
Umm hmm, they influence political leaders by being megaphones of their masters. We watch them dancing in tune of the establishment &doing "yes sir/no sir" all the time. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yes, megaphoning and reinforcing the China negative narratives. These narratives makes the general society fears and hate China, and therefore, to some degrees, the Chinese in western countries and as a result those Chinese are getting disliked, discriminated, physical attacked [elder;y Chinese targeted in inside/outside their home, Chinese getting attacked on streets, and Chinese getting shoved onto subway tracks]. These China negative narratives also influences politics and make Chinese corporations very hard/unable to operate in western countries.

"Their masters"? people like Rishi Sunak?

We Chinese think it's a blessing to have much more than what meets the eye, to wear undistinguished clothing, to speak little, but to have the highest degree and greatest innovative ability in the group.

No. Chinese needs to fight for and achieve more and further than merely at what meets the eyes. Leaders sees beyond the horizon while worker bees just sees what is in front of them and get told what to do. Chinese should wear and be whatever they can to distinguish themselves, speak up for yourself, fight with your best ability and firm believes, else you will be constrained in the undistinguish-ness.

In the West, If the Chinese don't stand up, speak up and fight for themselves then who will? surely not the Indians.
 

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Surprisingly, German far rights is the most pro-China party in German. Chinese government is pragmatic enough to work with anyone and has already engaged with AfD party.
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A bit like Hitler was pro-USSR right before he decided to invade them.

The only German political group that's reasonable is die Linke. The rest are Nazis and should not be trusted under any circumstances.
 

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Come on, you guys knew I meant "more developed." :)
Yeah, but the world gets more developed too, and if you've moving slower, then you're not getting more developed at all. Indians only wanting to go back after India's developed to their taste is not called helping India; it's called helping themselves to India. And that cycle is why India goes nowhere.
Yes, megaphoning and reinforcing the China negative narratives. These narratives makes the general society fears and hate China, and therefore, to some degrees, the Chinese in western countries and as a result those Chinese are getting disliked, discriminated, physical attacked [elder;y Chinese targeted in inside/outside their home, Chinese getting attacked on streets, and Chinese getting shoved onto subway tracks]. These China negative narratives also influences politics and make Chinese corporations very hard/unable to operate in western countries.
Western countries hate China. That's already done. China did it by being strong and growing fast. How is that any credit to this Indian beating a dead horse?
"Their masters"? people like Rishi Sunak?
No, it's called being a public servant, which is what Sunak is. His masters are the British people.
No. Chinese needs to fight for and achieve more and further than merely at what meets the eyes.
No, you need to reread what I wrote and realize you are arguing against something that was not said.
Leaders sees beyond the horizon while worker bees just sees what is in front of them and get told what to do.
India, the West, China, we all have leaders. But Indian and Western leaders specialize in bullshitting the public while Chinese leaders specialize at organizing the country to grow and develop.
Chinese should wear and be whatever they can to distinguish themselves, speak up for yourself, fight with your best ability and firm believes, else you will be constrained in the undistinguish-ness.
We like to be low key and succeed that way. China's been moving far faster than any country that does things your way, so you can keep that advice to yourself, thanks.
In the West, If the Chinese don't stand up, speak up and fight for themselves then who will? surely not the Indians.
LOLOL Who will? You are stuck in a mentality where Chinese need to be in the West. If a society discriminates against you, you don't need to speak up and fight for youself in someone else's house. You go home and you make your home better than his. This is the mentality of a true superpower; your mentality is of rats trying to carve out a living in the lion's den.
 

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The Chinese with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities in China. They have zero reason to leave the country.
While the Indians "with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities" in India and everywhere in the world. These Indians see far beyond than just meets the eye and fight and worked their way to be part of the economic and political leadership in many countries around the world.
 

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:rolleyes:Yes, megaphoning and reinforcing the China negative narratives. These narratives makes the general society fears and hate China, and therefore, to some degrees, the Chinese in western countries and as a result those Chinese are getting disliked, discriminated, physical attacked
BullShit. Indians have been facing identity & cultural crisis since their birth. They are too eager for attention. Indians don't enforce anything. Westies do those things to Asians in general as much as they do it to Indians . Why are you too embarrassed to admit that Indians are too desperate to be accepted in the west as human, not half human ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
"Their masters"? people like Rishi Sunak?
Yes, Good slave like Rishi Sunak. :rolleyes:
I always wondered if India voted for British empire to be colonized by them. Yet Indians get elected in useless post based on their perception by people who colonized them, to serve the colonizers. Beautiful democracy.

In the West, If the Chinese don't stand up, speak up and fight for themselves then who will? surely not the Indians.
Indians can't even fight for themselves.Too eager to be at feet.
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