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AssassinsMace said:
Strangely enough from what I gather Netanyahu seems to be the only prominent Jewish figure that recognizes what China did for Jewish refugees during WWII. China is the only country that didn't turn away Jews fleeing Europe. The US did and those Jews ended up killed in extermination camps.
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I think former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was as well. His father was in Shanghai.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
Strangely enough from what I gather Netanyahu seems to be the only prominent Jewish figure that recognizes what China did for Jewish refugees during WWII. China is the only country that didn't turn away Jews fleeing Europe. The US did and those Jews ended up killed in extermination camps.
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Iran hosted Jewish refugees as well. Btw Satanyahu once stated "that Hitler did not intend to kill Jews until he was convinced to do so by a Palestinian mufti".
 
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Oh, well in that case it looks like full house then for China's involvement in solving the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.
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It is believed that Netanyahu will try to advance relations with Saudi Arabia with the help of China, a move that would be likely to cause displeasure in Washington, which has been urging normalization.
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I hope this part isn't true and that China is not helping Satanyahu normalize ties with SA for two reasons: a) that would undo a great diplomatic achievement that was Saudi-Iranian reapproachment. Iran will, without a doubt, break off diplomatic relations with SA if it normalizes ties with Israel. b) why reward this zio-fascist regime at the time they are expanding settlements in West Bank at a rapid pace ? Also don't forget Satanyahu's strong links with the U.S. Republican party. When Biden exits White House next year, Israel will once again be firmly in the U.S. camp.
 
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Group I hang out in showed me an interesting stat to explain why South Koreans are jumping up and down right now:
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Global ship building order for last week:
43+2 new ships ordered
China - 36+2
South Korea - 6
Italy - 1

Looking at the week before that:
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42+10 new ships ordered
China - 30+2
India - 6+8
South Korea - 2
Turkey - 2
Vietnam - 2

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30+10 new ships ordered
China - 26+2
South Korea - 2
Japan - 2

I think you'll be jumping up and down too if that was your industry
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Maybe they can send Mr. Yoon to Beijing and he can sing march of the volunteers for Mr. Xi
 
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There is NO Israeli lobby in China and Iran had something to offer beside oil and gas which is Strategic in nature because Iran had the potential to be a regional power.
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...yet. Give it some time and they'll firmly establish themselves. But for now, Netanyahu will constantly badger Xi until he gets what he wants.
 
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H2O said:
...yet. Give it some time and they'll firmly establish themselves. But for now, Netanyahu will constantly badger Xi until he gets what he wants.
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You guys are overselling Israel influence over the US. The "Jews" controlling the west is just a classic misdirection so no one sees the western crusader states 2.0 project in west Asia.

Why would China choose a saudi + Israel combo over Saudi + Iran combo with Iran having a clear market size advantage for China? We are talking about 90 million citizens in Iran versus 10 million in Israel. As far as I know Israel also doesn't really has much to offer regarding commonidities that Iran can't offer in bigger quantities with better infrastructure access vis a vi Israel.

All Israel has is a manufactured reputation by the west.
 
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BlackWindMnt said:
You guys are overselling Israel influence over the US. The "Jews" controlling the west is just a classic misdirection so no one sees the western crusader states 2.0 project in west Asia.

Why would China choose a saudi + Israel combo over Saudi + Iran combo with Iran having a clear market size advantage for China? We are talking about 90 million citizens in Iran versus 10 million in Israel. As far as I know Israel also doesn't really has much to offer regarding commonidities that Iran can't offer in bigger quantities with better infrastructure access vis a vi Israel.

All Israel has is a manufactured reputation by the west.
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Are you sure? When you have politicians and candidates groveling for campaign funding, I'd say Israeli influence is rather strong. If anyone decides to go against the grain, they would get crucified in the media. And those eschatologist aren't helping the situation.

On your last point, yes, you're correct that Iran have a lot more to offer to China than Israel.
 
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