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emblem21

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He is from Australia.... does anti-Asian racism not exist in Australia? Pack up and leave?
Should the need arise and the danger get to that level, I would given that I do have family in China and I could work overseas if need be but I am specifically referring to the USA here given the sheer amount of racism and violence happening there and well the fact that the USA is simply that dangerous compared to everywhere else given how crazy things are there (I mean they literally trying to turn Jesus into an ai god for crying out loud) (if the rest of the world gets that bad, then everyone here should exercise there own judgement). Anti-Asian sentiment exists in Australia like anywhere else in the western world, but not anywhere to the point where I have to worry about losing my family to a random jogging incident where guns are used that the USA does on literally comical levels where you can’t leave a 4 year old alone for two seconds before they blow their own brains out because some idiot forgot to lock that damn gun away somewhere. Right now if I was in the US or even Canada, I would have long since nicked off without a fuss and if where I am at is going to be as bad, I would gladly consider my options. Thankfully the insanity where I am at has yet to get to that level and hopefully if the US goes down under and gives an example to the world on a level where is media cannot hide anything, I wouldn’t need to do any thing that drastic but as of now, given current commitments, I will have to own it as it is but I will definitely be careful for potential violence. Thankfully no one seems to be interested in random beat downs or extreme attacks on Chinese restaurants like in NYC recently and given how placid people are right now, that would be somewhat difficult to see happen unless their is an extreme change in sanity and an allowance for people to have guns in homes.
 
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Philister

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If EU, the need to get out of there isn't as big as compared to US and Canada to a lesser extent.
Far as I can tell, it’s not true, European nations are fundamentally inferior compared with United States in almost every way, the “anti-Asian” thing is more about political issues in the US and the escalation is pretty predictable, it’s a long steady process, people would know when to leave, for Europe, it all could happen overnight , they are in essence, some richer whiter SEA countries despite all glory they used to be. My personal hot take is: as an Asian, if you are going to live abroad , the US is so far the best place you could choose, it’s not perfect especially nowadays, but the US in bad shape is still infinitely better than any other “western” countries.
 

FriedButter

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I will withhold my judgement for now before deciding if I would ever try laboratory meat.
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Assuming it ever does take off then it will still be decades before it would be competitive priced and would most likely be when you decided to try it. I wonder if it would turn the industry into some monopoly and if one lab burns down then will the US just lose like 25% of their national meat production overnight
 

Michaelsinodef

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Far as I can tell, it’s not true, European nations are fundamentally inferior compared with United States in almost every way, the “anti-Asian” thing is more about political issues in the US and the escalation is pretty predictable, it’s a long steady process, people would know when to leave, for Europe, it all could happen overnight , they are in essence, some richer whiter SEA countries despite all glory they used to be. My personal hot take is: as an Asian, if you are going to live abroad , the US is so far the best place you could choose, it’s not perfect especially nowadays, but the US in bad shape is still infinitely better than any other “western” countries.
Nah, European nations have superior qualities and stuff compared to US but also inferior qualities and stuff, it's not the case that the US is superior to EU nations all accross the board.

As for sudden escalation of hate or laws etc. against people of chinese ethnicity, I would say depends on the EU country, but in general, also something that is unlikely (on the other hand, it happening in the US in case of say conflict between US and China or PLA vs RoC wouldn't be all that unlikely).

That's how I see it as someone born and grown up in Scandinavia.
 

Dark Father

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Yeah, countries like China doing something back is ''economic coercion'' and their own coercion of countries are presented as rules based legitimate sanctions. Also look how Anglophone rag Wall Street Journal presents the economic coercion from the EU as 'force non-EU countries to respect its restrictions'.

''Nonetheless, the decision to target third countries with EU sanctions represents a significant shift by the bloc, which has traditionally shied away from efforts to force non-EU countries to respect its restrictions.''

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56860

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Far as I can tell, it’s not true, European nations are fundamentally inferior compared with United States in almost every way, the “anti-Asian” thing is more about political issues in the US and the escalation is pretty predictable, it’s a long steady process, people would know when to leave, for Europe, it all could happen overnight , they are in essence, some richer whiter SEA countries despite all glory they used to be. My personal hot take is: as an Asian, if you are going to live abroad , the US is so far the best place you could choose, it’s not perfect especially nowadays, but the US in bad shape is still infinitely better than any other “western” countries.
Not sure if serious. The quality of life in the US is atrocious for how rich the country is. Life expectancy, infrastructure, healthcare, crime in the US is far shittier than all but the least developed European states.
 

BoraTas

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Not sure if serious. The quality of life in the US is atrocious for how rich the country is. Life expectancy, infrastructure, healthcare, crime in the US is far shittier than all but the least developed European states.
Europe getting outperformed in economic growth by the USA since 2007 is real. But it is exaggerated. EU's GDP PPP per capita was 70% of the US in 2007. Now it is 69%. So inflation and population adjusted situation is still pretty much the same. The US increased the money supply by a lot after 2008 with non-existent interest rates and high-government spending. Look at the debt-to-GDP ratios of the EU and US.

Between 2007 and 2023 the EU went from 62% to 86%. The US went from 62% to 130%.

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The story with the inflation rate and income inequality are similar too. The US nominal GDP is increasingly becoming detached from reality, at least for people without millions to stash in US financial system. The USD is overvalued. American produce is extremely expensive because of this reason. Products made by foreigners are very easy to buy for Americans, which is also the reason why the US has a huge trade deficit.
 

Chish

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America is winning. China is losing. Jai American.
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If one read objectively of the article, there is a big difference between what the "geopolitical strategist" actually said and what the editor wrote. The editor was spinning by inserting his own interpretations inbetween the specialist quotes. Even the title of the article is miss leading and whole article is twisted interpretation.

 

KYli

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Far as I can tell, it’s not true, European nations are fundamentally inferior compared with United States in almost every way, the “anti-Asian” thing is more about political issues in the US and the escalation is pretty predictable, it’s a long steady process, people would know when to leave, for Europe, it all could happen overnight , they are in essence, some richer whiter SEA countries despite all glory they used to be. My personal hot take is: as an Asian, if you are going to live abroad , the US is so far the best place you could choose, it’s not perfect especially nowadays, but the US in bad shape is still infinitely better than any other “western” countries.
In a way, this is true as the US provides more opportunities and more wealthy than EU countries. However, the US also has lot more problems than EU nations.

US has one of the worst health care system in the world even though it has many of the best hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. Many older people with health insurance couldn't afford treatment and force into bankruptcy. Life expectancy is lowest among OECD. Public transport is bad. Many of the most important business districts are filled with crimes that forcing many people to commute in long distance. Regulations and enforcement of food and drug safety have been deteriorated due to corruption and corporate greed. Young Americans have much more likely to do drugs which have in turn feeding the problem of homeless and crimes.
If one read objectively of the article, there is a big difference between what the "geopolitical strategist" actually said and what the editor wrote. The editor was spinning by inserting his own interpretations inbetween the specialist quotes. Even the title of the article is miss leading and whole article is twisted interpretation.

Every MSM articles are spinning false statements when talking about China. I have seldom seeing any positive reports about China and Russia. Regardless of what the expert said, it is more important to what the MSM trying to induce its audience with.
 
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