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gadgetcool5

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I find it notable that Blinken is disembarking in Beijing at the moment when Biden Administration officials are telling American journalists that Ben Hu leaked Covid from a lab and China covered it up. IMO China should freeze diplomatic niceties and send Blinken home packing with nothing to show, if Biden comes out tomorrow and says Ben Hu was patient zero or something to that effect (via "declassifying intelligence").
 

horse

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"They're doing it because they are scared." "They're doing it out of desperation." That's called copium. It only makes you feel comfortable and justifies your inaction. Instead of feeling good thinking they are scared, you should think how much harm the scared people do to you.


Doing nothing is even more not always the answer. China did slap retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods. China went tit-for-tat with the Australians and Canadians with import bans and also Micron.


It does not even mean a no counter move is required. You're applying standards like "always", "required" only to actions, never to inactions.


You're confusing the cause and result. Losing is the cause, whining is the result. The people who are losing are the people who are whining. Not whining even when you are losing doesn't make you not lose. Removing the result doesn't make the cause disappear. China has been patient for the last one year and South Koreans are only escalating confrontationism.

Not sure what you are even talking about, or the point.

If your point is China is being stupid, then you are wrong.

The objective fact is that trade is a record levels. Chinese companies making more money than ever. That includes record sales/exports to the Americans. Not sure what the problem is.

The point is to make money.


As for the other points you raised, regarding the trade war, China only slapped on some tariffs but not up to the same amount that the Americans did against Chinese goods, and China did not compensate by targeting other American interests at that time. If the Americans did 100 tat with the tariffs, China only did maybe 40-30 tit with the tariffs. Then saw trade expand to record levels.

As for the Italian tire maker, well, what difference does it make? The Chinese have a minority stake in that Italian company. For some reason, the Italian politicians got their panties in a knot. Bottom line, I don't think the Italians should be asking any favours from the Chinese anytime soon. You got to give something to get something. If they do not want to play, then they do not want to play. That is odd that the Italians don't want to play. Their economy is at the same level as 2008.


As for the Koreans, a quick summary of the past 30 years, since China and South Korea established diplomatic relations. There were ups and downs, and real cold periods, then they got back to talking again and things were smoother. This I not even talking South Korea, last 30 years North Korea and China relations been pretty volatile. In the end, does not seem much has change. As we see today, South Koreans no different than the North Koreans. That is not surprising because they are all Koreans. Be patient is the best policy for China with Korea.

:D
 

horse

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I may add that AUKUS deal is not enough for the Australian, their real objective is the balkanization of Indonesia..

Yeah brother.

All this talk about China with Australia, half the time what they really mean is Indonesia and partly Malaysia.

Anything that targets China emanating from that neighbourhood, also has Indonesia and Malaysia in the crosshairs.

They just do not say that part out loud.
 

Eventine

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Jake Sullivan wanted so badly for the visit to fail completely so he could discredit Blinken.
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Sullivan is a closet neoconservative, and obviously believes that he can architect a "Nixon moment" against China by using India as the main American proxy in Asia. After all, with an up and coming 1.8 billion people, India seems like the perfect human wave to throw against China from the West as the US & Pacific allies strike from the East. From the American perspective, it must look like an ingenious move - putting India against China, having the two greatest threats to Western hegemony destroy each other.

Yet, as much as Modi is acting like a Western puppet right now, for whatever reason I don't see him as a Yoon or a Kishida. He seems the type to milk the West for what it's worth, not the type to fight their wars. Still, a dangerous moment is coming where China's demographic weakness and the US's one-sided "alliance" with India will give the latter a window to push its territorial agenda along the border and on Tibet. China would do well to frustrate that ambition by making it too costly to even contemplate. The Indians have always feared pain, and the best way to deter them from trying anything funny would be more high ground, strategic weapons in Tibet.
 

Temstar

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The president said he does not believe that top Chinese leaders knew where the balloon was or how it was outfitted.
I want you to imagine Blinken sitting down with Li Qiang for a meeting, and just as Blinken starts to go on about human rights and Xinjiang and Ukraine Li Qiang throws a newspaper across the table with this piece of news.

Is this not going to be like Treaty of Shimonoseki? Does Biden realizes how Blinken will look in China when he lets out this news?
 

Stierlitz

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TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Kuomintang (KMT) Vice Chair Andrew Hsia (夏立言) met with Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Politburo member Wang Huning (王滬寧) in the margin of the Cross-Strait Forum Saturday (June 17).
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TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — An armed conflict between Taiwan and China might break out much sooner than 2027, senior United States Congress member Mike Gallagher said in an interview published by Nikkei Asia on Friday (June 16).
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June 18 (Reuters) - European countries should strengthen relations with Taiwan if they want continued Taiwanese investment in semiconductor production, Foreign Minister Joseph Wu said during a visit to Europe last week.
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