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AssassinsMace

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
Quoting what the US said in that article:


Your "vision of a free world" like 52764 different genders, illustrations of people having sex in children's school textbooks, pregnant men and legalized pedophilia?

Fvck no, thank you. Please do the rest of the world a massive favor by just staying the fvck out of UNESCO.
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emblem21 said:
Damn that whole alphabet thing is truly disgusting shit but considering how much it messes up the military and how the president is busy shoving that insanity down their soldiers throats and is trying to get them to do gender reassignment operations on them to correct their gender, I somehow feel like this is a good thing in that it traumatised and caused unnecessary suffering to these worthless POS that it ultimately make is much easier for China and Russia to put these abominations out of there misery when there time comes. Really can anyone explain why making the US armed forces gays and lesbians a good thing or is this something that was invented as a joke that simply became rainbows just because since really, this doesn’t make any sense at all.
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Part of Western culture is having a messiah complex. The idea is they think they're leading people down the right path. The crux of it is it's about power. Surprise! Not! Ever hear how once a fad is in, it's out? The idea of a fad is not whether it's important to society or not. The point is watching people following the fad because of "you" meaning power. People who follow fads also get satisfaction because they influenced others to follow them. Once gay rights issues are embraced or in other words the fad is over, they'll move on to the next flavor of the month. Power is fleeting because it always has to be exercised or you don't feel it.

Another thing Westerners do is they have to make all the causes they push for out to be bigger than them to distract people into thinking it's not about them but for what's best for everyone else so people have to do it. The right has God and the left has the environment but in both cases only they can interpret what both want. How convenient.

The ultimate high from power is forcing people to do things against their will. That comes most when you force people that are "opposite" from you to do things they don't want to do. You look at the right and left wing and they love to push each other buttons by doing what the other doesn't want to have happen.
 
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HereToSeePics said:
Well, as most of us who have been following China's economic and semiconductor news, this shouldn't come as a surprise:

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The juiciest tidbit is at the end of the article - not even free US aid is enough:



Looks like either South Korea finally pushed back or the US government realized we can't keep antagonizing everyone if we still want allies

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I am extremely surprised.

Simply because the American government lately has only demonstrated pigheadedness and foolishness in regards to China and the so-called trade war and tech war.

Starting the tech war in semiconductors was foolish, changing tact now is equally foolish, perhaps even more so.

What is next?

The US bans American firms from the Chinese IC market, while the US has no qualms about allowing Taiwan and Korean companies reaping that American business that was lost?

Sure sounds like it.

That really surprises me.

After all, the part about the US government banning their own IC tool makers like AMAT, and couple of others which I forget the company names now, the US government banned their own companies first, so to pressure the Dutch (ASML) and the Japanese to do the same.

Now they are telling us that the Americans have caved into Korean and Taiwanese demands to continue doing business with China in IC.
 
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gelgoog

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Most of SK Hynix's NAND and DRAM fabs are in China. What would the US do, ask them to ritually suicide and destroy their own business?
Good luck with that.
The South Korean memory industry is erecting new fabs in South Korea, SK Hynix alone is building several new fabs there, but those will take many years to become operational. And in the meantime the older fabs need to be used and depreciated.
 
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horse

horse

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AMAT, basically is collateral damage. The Americans did that to themselves. They sacrificed their own. They expected the Dutch and Japanese to sacrifice their own too.

If the US government deemed AMAT to be collateral damage, then Netherlands, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, their companies are all candidates to be collateral damage too.


Then, this game became interesting.

China attacked Micron.

The Americans were outraged. They condemned this Chinese move, and vowed to work with their allies to prevent them from selling to China, to back-fill the lost Micron business.

But as we see today, the Americans caved in on that.

What gives!?

:D

This is my impression, and I got no idea what the Americans are thinking. Or doing for that matter. Some bizarre belief in some weird game theory maybe?

What seems to have happened here, is like what happens in a chess game, Western or Chinese chess, where sometimes your rook or che or pao, gets trapped.

China by banning Micron, trapped the Americans, exposing the divisions in their alliances, and exposing the toothless American policy.

The reason I think the Americans caved in to the Korean and Taiwan demands, is that they realized their bishop got trapped, and do not want to lose their rook either. So they cave and cut their losses this time.

In their minds, the Americans believe they need Korea and Taiwan, and altogether fight China in the American lead tech war. Therefore, they had to keep Korea and Taiwan happy.

The problem is that by caving in, that means lost their trapped rook or bishop. Losing such a piece means more difficulty in subsequent moves on the chess board, and makes it more difficult to win the game.

:oops:

Incidentally, just wondering out loud here, if this tech war turns into a war of attrition, such as I will buy less tech from you lowering your business, then this definitely favours China.

Why?

The Americans have something to lose, while China IC is still relative small, but growing exponentially due to domestic demand, created by you know what.

Bwhahahahahahahahhhaaaa!

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horse

horse

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Yeah, brother ansy1968, you know what I am talking about.

What am I talking about? You know what I am talking about. That's what I am talking about.

An alliance is like a chain. This American imaged semiconductor alliance is the US, Netherlands, Japan, Korea, Taiwan.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Break those weakest links, and the chain is broken, the alliance is gone, especially in this case. The division of labour is so clear, the invisible hand moves everything to it proper place in IC worldwide.

The Americans in order to maintain the strength of that chain, must keep everyone happy.

Here is the interesting part, China attacked Micron. Who is next?

There are five links in the chain. Anyone could be next.

In this round, the Americans caved, to keep Korea and Taiwan happy, to keep their chain intact.

China has not put much pressure onto this chain. If it cracks, it could all go.

The day will come, when China starts to press on this chain. Micron is just the opening shot.

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G7 summit statement to target China's 'economic coercion'
May 13, 20231:22 AM EDT
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China bans major chip maker Micron from key infrastructure projects
22 May 2023
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These next two articles both mention how the US will enlist its allies to counter this Micron ban.

US 'won't tolerate' China's ban on Micron chips, commerce secretary says
May 28, 2023
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GOP Lawmakers Ramp Up Calls to Retaliate Over China’s Micron Ban
Jun 2, 2023
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Then the news today, showing that everything is all fake, except for the ban on Micron.

U.S. to Allow South Korean, Taiwan Chip Makers to Keep Operations in China
June 12, 2023
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They did not bother to mention in the WSJ article that memory chips, such as the ones banned from Micron, probably would be made by the Korean fabs inside China, thereby taking Micron's business. Good.

Good.

Very good!

Excellent!

:D
 
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China says US eagerness to engage is an 'illusion'​

BEIJING, June 13 (Reuters) - A widely followed state-backed Chinese social media account accused Washington of repeatedly playing tricks and creating the "illusion" that it is eager to engage with China, days before an expected visit by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
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"Every time they say they want to meet, the United States would play a role and create the false illusion that it is eager to communicate while at the same time repeatedly testing and provoking China's fundamental principles," Yuyuan Tantian, a social media user affiliated with Chinese state broadcaster CCTV, wrote in an online article on Tuesday.
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