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supersnoop

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Serbia bends the knee

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I'm not sure "bending the knee" is right here.
Serbia has NATO occupying what they see as their own territory. They injured these occupation soldiers, and instead of facing backlash, the soldiers were sold out by their own governments who also sold out their collaborators (Pristina government).

I also wouldn't call this a "Westward pivot"
 

Biscuits

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Not about the money at all. If you can buy expertise and solve the problem, then it’s not a problem.

But this is similar to when Ex-RAF pilots were hired to train Chinese pilots. During the entirety of that program, UK maintained constant contacts with these pilots. What do you think their regular debriefs were about. Sure werent mabout Chinese cuisine or sightseeing.
They were hired to contribute with input on a small part of the whole training course, and of course who else would be more qualified to provide information on the enemy than soldiers from the enemy themselves?

Some might be misinfo but that would be easily filtered away.
 

Petrolicious88

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Please elaborate more...I am giddy with excitement to hear this "cold war" shtick you're talking about.

Yes, America, your America is hard at work to bring about and realize this cold war hoping and wishing for China to kick start/jump start the whole propaganda. I mean, can't blame you since most of the news, reports you consume are all. ONE SIDED and ENTIRELY from WESTERN LENS and SOURCES so of course you'd be inclined to think so. Just as you persistently thought China was wrong in their handling of Covid-19, vaccines, lockdown, and host of other issues.

LOL you think the PLA is that STUPID and or GULLIBLE not to assume the inherent risks of hiring/paying for such people huh..
B, I’m giddy with excitement every time you reply. I don’t know what you mean by “your America”. But I thought you said I’m Indian.

I don’t think PLAAF is stupid or gullible. It was just a question. How trustworthy are these guys when they were having regular debriefs with their own governments.
 

Petrolicious88

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They were hired to contribute with input on a small part of the whole training course, and of course who else would be more qualified to provide information on the enemy than soldiers from the enemy themselves?

Some might be misinfo but that would be easily filtered away.
That’s true.
 

pmc

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Iran is not surprising as so many Iranians now in West and Gulf. few years back Maduro was like uninvited guest .now he was given real welcome in Saudi. Hispanic world is integrating into Europe and North America. Same with India. Indian origin people are one of the largest real estate buyers in Mideast and world . Strong and wealthy demographics overcome every thing not the number of high school golf medalist and sport as important as physical product.

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Overbom

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Blinken just wants to talk so badly that the State department keeps leaking to the press that there would be a meeting soon. From China's perspective, any meeting is a complete waste of time. In addition, China would get another sanction from the US after the talk. However, China also needs to appear to be willing to engage so a talk is still possible. Just that China would try to delay and postpone any talk as long as possible.
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Don't forget that the outbound US investment ban to China for specific industries is coming shortly (in a few months I guess)

Literally no point to talk to the US at all
 

plawolf

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If the US knew it was losing and it was over for them, the US be for scorched earth. They would take everyone down with them. That's what the Chinese don't understand how Americans think. So thinking the US thinks more about the well-being of the world as a whole doesn't calculate in their thinking so appealing to Americans' sense of humanity doesn't work. Just look at what's happening now. The US is okay with sacrificing it's allies' well-being for what the US wants. That's what US allies are complaining about.

What China should be doing instead is talking about how much Americans are personally going to lose. As Mao said, "One death is a great tragedy. Ten thousand deaths is only a statistic." What made Americans turn against the Iraq War? It was when the American media was no longer lionizing every KIA the US suffered and the only people left to morn were only the family. This is when Americans say to themselves, "Why did these Americans have to die?"

You want to look at it at a smaller scale? Just look at how the West is changing their language from decoupling from China to de-risking. You think they did that because they saw how it would hurt everyone since China is the world's economic engine? No they did it because they suddenly realized how much they were going to lose if China decoupled with them. Like I said before in this forum, they can stop selling advanced technology to China. What is their definition of "advanced technology"? It's as simple as they have it and no one else does. It means also what they still expect to sell to China are the things that China can get somewhere else meaning the West makes zero-money from the largest and still growing market in the world. They're going to lose big time.

He is not saying that for the Americans, he knows the Americans are beyond reasoning with now. His intended audience is the rest of the world and asking them if they want to die for American entitlement, greed and arrogance.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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India has yet to become or achieve their lofty goal of becoming a $5 TRILLION economy and it's already trying to FLEX it's puny muscles, non-existent economic power against her neighboring countries. In this particular case, it's against NEPAL. And yet the white western world of America and Europe will overlook such blatant COERCION AND ACTUAL BULLYING against a much weaker country all because NEPAL dares to stand up to INDIAS fictionalized border issue along with making business with CHINA. All the while, the elephant hypocrite is still doing many deals and trade with China.

It seems that India can't seem to shake off their SEPOY historical legacy and wants to play that part again on behalf of America. What sorry ass of a country.

 

taxiya

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Blinken just wants to talk so badly that the State department keeps leaking to the press that there would be a meeting soon. From China's perspective, any meeting is a complete waste of time. In addition, China would get another sanction from the US after the talk. However, China also needs to appear to be willing to engage so a talk is still possible. Just that China would try to delay and postpone any talk as long as possible.
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Another possibility is that China has determined that it has been long enough and clear enough to the rest of the world that it was US' behaviour that hindered any meaningful talk and therefor China isn't trying to delay but outright rejecting any talks before US meeting China's prerequisites (those lists) visibly.

The last supposed meeting was "cancelled" by US due to the ballon as Blinken said. But I see it an excuse after US got rejected of meeting. The ballon incident was used just to save their face because the ballon left China many months before they asked for a meeting. Neither China nor US could possibily know where and when or IF it would ruin the "meeting". The truth is, the US asked for a meeting, got rejected, then found a convenient incident at hand to cover the humiliation. For this reason, I suspect there won't be any meeting unless there is some concrete action (not just words) from US before hand.
 
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