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Petrolicious88

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They want to provoke China without actually going to war because the costs and consequences of actually starting to shoot is quite unknown and could be extremely devastasting to them.
It certainly looks like US is preparing for war and is able to spread the cost of that war among an alliance. Again the theme here is America is the aggressor bringing war to Asia.
So there's actually 2 parts of the question: you can refuse to do what they want by either deescalation/restraint or by escalating even further and making it clear that they cannot control the pace of the conflict.
How can China escalate even further when it’s trying to act with restraint, and it’s economic reality limits how far it can escalate.
And it really doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks, as Rwanda also had a casus belli that they ignored, nobody actually cared about Yugoslavia and the facts are always malleable - see Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
China is not Yugoslavia or Iraq. So your list of casus belli does not apply.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with this. The vigil should remain.

We should all remember Tiananmen as the day color revolution failed in China and commemorate the brave PLA soldiers who sacrificed their lives to ensure China's future prosperity, stability and unity.
 

Chevalier

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I'm not sure I agree with this. The vigil should remain.

We should all remember Tiananmen as the day color revolution failed in China and commemorate the brave PLA soldiers who sacrificed their lives to ensure China's future prosperity, stability and unity.
It’s actually an excellent wuwei taichi move against the CIA’s attempt to turn June 6th into an international day or mourning as propaganda against China. The CIA loves to use religious cults to destabilise rival regimes, having studied cults and psychotropics since the 60s and 70s.
What China is doing is what the Catholic Church did to pagan holidays like Yule and the birthday of sol invictus: appropriating and Sinocising these events into events that benefit Chinese cities and ppl. In this case, the carnival brings tourist money into the city and sidelines the idiot Tiananmen cultists as any other cult that you pass by in Taiwan or elsewhere.
 

Helius

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What Reuters conveniently left out was Li's response -

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In a bilateral meeting on Saturday, German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius told Li that Berlin did not want to see Beijing hiring its retired pilots to train their PLA counterparts.

Li responded that “we don’t need them any more”, according to a German delegate speaking to the media on the forum’s sidelines.
That and refusing the meet with Austin, the man just keeps handing out fatalities over there.
 
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