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jwnz

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His mobile SIM card gives him unrestricted access to Twitter, but of course it's possible that he forgot to turn on global roaming service. He could even choose his Starlink service, but of course it's also possible that he's purely, well, too busy.
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Are you saying when roaming with your home country SIM in China, Internet restriction is not applied? If so, then I guess I'm the dumb fuck... Haha.
I have done some research and asked others, roaming with overseas SIM in China is still subjected to Internet restriction.

Now it's possible that Elon might have been exempted. But the optics would still be bad for him to tweet from China, considering it's a high profile visit by a high profile person.

So busy or not, have access to Twitter or not, Elon is just showing manner, respect, and good business acumen by not tweeting.
 

jwnz

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There's no such thing as a war with Japan that lasts a week. Even if you defeat their navy in a week, you'd have to invade or embargo them into a surrender. Perfect opportunity for the US to create a new Ukraine through submarine warfare and getting the Japanese to fight house to house.
Absolutely, once missiles start flying between major countries like China and Japan, there's almost no turning back or off ramp to deescalate. Also, even though I'm long for witnessing the sinking of a US carrier, each an event would be WW3 or the trigger of it.
 

Chevalier

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That choice was always a complete lie and inversion of truth and reality. The only way China would ever have become a security threat to Australia is if Australia first became a security threat to China.

Australia could have had prosperity and security both, and all it had to do was nothing. Stay neutral in America’s race war against China and live free, rich and safe.

Instead it’s compromised leaders went the extra mile to needlessly and purposefully make Australia a clear and preset danger to China.

As a direct consequence of those deliberate choices, Australia is now destined to be a poor colony of America’s with an American occupation force quietly moving in under the guise of protectors while US intelligence completes its stranglehold over Australian political leadership, after already successfully taken over Australian intelligence and military as American agents and fronts fully bought out Australian ‘free’ media wholesale to brainwash the population

Australia’s trade to China replaced by American exports while its government coffers are drained empty to pay for American ‘protection’ as exemplified by the AUKUS sub scam.

If the new Cold War ever goes hot, Australia is intended to be the Asian Ukraine, after Japan and SK have fallen, as one more extra speed bump to keep China from coming to knock on America’s own front door.

Great trade Australia has made. Not even Donald Trump would have asked for more from Australia.
Australia as a nation state has never existed. There has only ever been the tribe of white anglos squatting on the continents of murdered natives; in this sense, the anglos do not adopt a Westphalian view of the state but a more primitive and ancient concept of the state in the form of race.
Australia, the nation of the white Australia policy and infamous racism against East Asians, was always going side with America against China, the entire Australian national myth is built on a fear of being “swamped by Asians”.
What you are writing here is being told as a betrayal of values. China was made an adversary in the Anglosphere using almost religious arguments. The word "Democracy" is being used to rally people just like "Christ" was getting used by the Vatican 1000 years ago. So this is nothing new. It happening in the 21st century also show Anglosphere's education systems are bad at teaching critical thinking. Australia won't be the first country to do unreasonable things over religion either.
Because the true religion of the Five Eyes is white supremacy; a religion they have been pushing onto the rest of the western world to cement their grip on power. It’s just an accident of history that the current crop of western leaders are homosexuals and pederasts hence the religious push of LGBT as a new religion with blasphemy laws.
 

pmc

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. One only has to look at gdp figures to deduce this. China could engage Japan, India, and the Philippines in a war at once
Unless country is size of Israel Protection against drones and saturated missile attacks on such wide area is not sustainable and neither can GDP nor living standard survives. Saudi and UAE found out the hard way.
Than there is western dominance in Aviation. Just the scale of Air refueller and capabilities of platforms like P8 and others is on different level. Russia train on long duration missions on bombers and fighters with large external fuel tanks like Su-34/MIG-31 that put sustain 24/7 stress on Ukraine and its NATO AWACS. when Ukraine make a mistake by revealing its position than some drone or attack chopper show up and even those choppers need extra fuel tanks for safe distance and quick swap after mission. or some time number of strikes are released but not the impact but they may know the impact as it is from army tactical aviation but will not want to release it to keep guessing the sensor capability. it is way expensive business where perfection is needed at every level.
 

Biscuits

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If the US can sneak nuclear bombers and nuclear subs into Australia without anybody noticing or batting an eye, of course they'll sneak nukes onto Taiwan. They'll just announce it after they do so (probably once they get the DPP in office for another term). It's not like the US is held accountable by petty things like international laws. Sure, they might receive yet another limp-wristed condemnation from the UN for active nuclear proliferation, but it's not like there will any real consequences. Most countries are basically abuse victims in a state of learned helplessness.

The US will continue to do whatever it wants and everyone will look the other way. Media control will make sure their allies completely forget about it in a few months. Meanwhile, China self-limits its own available actions because it tries to follow the rules set by the US and thinks maintaining a spotless global reputation matters to its actual success.

Remember, the bully always has the advantage because the stick always beats the carrot. PRC diplomatic denunciations usually have little to no consequences.

Look at how weak China's response has been to the US moving nuclear subs into South Korea and the suggestion of a Taiwan nuclear umbrella.
China sees anything that goes on in Asia. A nuclear sub visit to SK (which, despite the circumstances of its creation, is still a country) is not much different to when China sends it's own nuclear subs around the straits of Japan.

A nuclear attack on China itself is something America would not dare. Even back in the early 2000s when China didn't have a military, US didn't invade, either because they realized they'd be facing the same situation as Russia is doing now but on steroids, and/or threat of nuclear MAD.

I think if China lets down its defenses, US will send "little green men" to try and take over Taiwan. But currently China's observation over Asia and the PLA's strength does not permit such an operation, so the only way US can try to take land from China is a full scale conventional attack. Any attempts to use nukes would escalate to MAD very quickly.
 
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Unless country is size of Israel Protection against drones and saturated missile attacks on such wide area is not sustainable and neither can GDP nor living standard survives. Saudi and UAE found out the hard way.
Than there is western dominance in Aviation. Just the scale of Air refueller and capabilities of platforms like P8 and others is on different level. Russia train on long duration missions on bombers and fighters with large external fuel tanks like Su-34/MIG-31 that put sustain 24/7 stress on Ukraine and its NATO AWACS. when Ukraine make a mistake by revealing its position than some drone or attack chopper show up and even those choppers need extra fuel tanks for safe distance and quick swap after mission. or some time number of strikes are released but not the impact but they may know the impact as it is from army tactical aviation but will not want to release it to keep guessing the sensor capability. it is way expensive business where perfection is needed at every level.
China's counter air complex is the most capable ever built. Unless they're using IRBMs they're gonna need literally thousands of missiles to do operationally significant damage.

If Russia's aerial operations are so effective then why haven't they conducted any SEAD operations since the beginning of the war? If Russia is able to use its strategic bombers to drop cheap gravity bombs onto uke cities, this war would be over a week.
 

Aniah

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I have no interest in promoting Russian Chinese alliance or whatever it is that you think the purpose of this was. My argument is that the US is willing to go to war with China because it can get its vassals in the region to do the bleeding. All it needs to do is provide equipment & money, which sure, it's expensive, but it's nothing the US can't afford with its $900 billion military budget.

Ukraine is a great example of how the US operates. The country itself is bankrupt, decimated, much of its population fled or drafted, with little economy & industry beyond what aid money is able to sustain. If not for NATO, it'd have surrendered a long time ago because what would be the benefit of fighting on? But it's not surrendering, it's continuing to bleed, because NATO commands it to do so and whispers of victory and glory.

The same "deal" will be given to Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, South Korea, India, etc. as long as they take up the fight against China. And what I'm saying is that half of that list are dumb enough to take it, because their societies have been so infiltrated by Western media and influence that they think it's their duty to take up arms. This is the danger that China faces - not that it'll face the US, but that it'll face all of its vassals first, long before the US shows up as the "final boss".

In no scenario where China exhausts itself fighting some combination of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and the Philippines, is it a victory, because even if you win, you lose - your cities bombed, your infrastructure destroyed, your military weakened. All the while the US can sweep in after the fact to prevent China from gaining any rewards (ie occupation / surrender of the above countries) from the victory.

In such situations the only way to win is to not fight, because it costs the US very little to run these proxy wars, when compared to the horrors of war that will be visited upon China and the US's proxies.
I agree but I think using allies to bleed China would backfire really hard. If their allies lose, they lose the entire asia to China. China is also going to cut all trade with the US if they do this, how much higher inflation will the people take before a civil war starts in the states? There is no scenario where China loses to the small countries and any kind of bleeding would be minuscule compared to the bleeding the US would receive from zero trade with China.
 
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